Calculate m (slope) of a line given the angle in degrees

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The discussion centers around calculating the slope (m) of a linear line given an angle in degrees, as well as understanding the relationship between slope and percent slope. Participants explore methods for conversion between degrees and radians, and the implications of defining slope in different contexts.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the slope (m) given an angle in degrees, initially confused by the terminology used for slope and angle.
  • Another participant suggests converting degrees to radians as a necessary step for calculations.
  • There is a clarification that the angle of 5% was mistakenly referred to as degrees instead of the correct term, which is 5°.
  • A participant proposes that the percent of the slope can be calculated by multiplying the slope value by 100%.
  • Some participants discuss the ambiguity in defining percent slope, noting that 'run' can refer to different measurements (actual distance vs. horizontal distance).
  • One participant questions the interpretation of percent slope at 90 degrees, suggesting that this may not be a universally accepted definition.
  • Another participant emphasizes that in practical applications, 'run' should be understood as horizontal distance, reinforcing the need for clarity in definitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of percent slope and its interpretation in various contexts. There is no consensus on the ambiguity of the term, with some asserting that the definitions are clear while others challenge this perspective.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the underlying geometry and trigonometry when working with slopes and angles, indicating that reliance solely on formulas may not be sufficient.

Francis Bacon
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Hi,

I want calculate the m = slope of a linear line WHEN I already know the angle in degrees of the line.

Here is an example: I calculate with Excel the angle with the following function: =+DEGREES(ATAN(0.0874887)) and I get as result the angle of 5%.

But how do I calculate the value 0.0874887 that is m = slope if I already know the angle of the linear line is 5%?

Thanks
 
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You simply convert the angle from degrees to radians. Do you know how to do that ?

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Thanks BvU for your fast response.

Unfortunately I don't know how to convert the angle to radians. Please give me the Excel formula.

Thanks a lot.
 
Hi BvU,
I got it.
=+RADIANS(5)

Thanks really a lot.
 
Hi,
In the above example I have calculated the DEGREE of the slope of the line and not as I have written the percent of the slope.
I have written 5% as the angle of the line. That is wrong. It is 5° !

Now I have a new question concerning the slope of a linear line: "How do I calculate the PERCENT of the slope of the line?

Lets assume I have a linear line with a slope of m = 0.05. What is the percent of the slope of the line?

Thanks
 
Francis Bacon said:
Lets assume I have a linear line with a slope of m = 0.05. What is the percent of the slope of the line?
0.05 x 100% = 5%.
 
Hi pbuk,

thanks a lot. How simple.
 
Francis Bacon said:
thanks a lot. How simple.
Indeed. If you want whatever you are doing with this in Excel to make any sense I think it would be a good idea for you to relearn the basics of triangle geometry - plenty of resources online.
 
pbuk said:
Indeed. If you want whatever you are doing with this in Excel to make any sense I think it would be a good idea for you to relearn the basics of triangle geometry - plenty of resources online.

You are right and I am already searching for some online courses in geometry and trigonometry.
Thanks again for your help.
 
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Francis Bacon said:
... Please give me the Excel formula.
The excel ?:) formula isn't good enough. What if your batteries run out :wink: ?
Better to understand what needs to be done! :

You know that one revolution is 2##\pi## and also 360 degrees. So

angle in radians = angle in degrees / 180 ##\bf \times## ##\bf\pi ##
Francis Bacon said:
Hi,
In the above example I have calculated the DEGREE of the slope of the line and not as I have written the percent of the slope.
I have written 5% as the angle of the line. That is wrong. It is 5° !

Now I have a new question concerning the slope of a linear line: "How do I calculate the PERCENT of the slope of the line?

Lets assume I have a linear line with a slope of m = 0.05. What is the percent of the slope of the line?

You should be aware that percent slope isn't all that unambiguously defined:
it is 'rise over run' but 'run' can be actual distance covered or it can be horizontal distance covered.
So 100 % can be 90 degrees or 45 degrees, respectively b/c and b/a in the figure in the link below.

https://communityviz.city-explained...1/Formulas/Function_library/Atan_function.htm

For small angles the difference is very small:
$$\arctan(0.05) = 0.049958396 \qquad \arcsin(0.05) = 0.050020857$$

and now you know what that is when expressed in degrees :smile:

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  • #11
BvU said:
You should be aware that percent slope isn't all that unambiguously defined:
it is 'rise over run' but 'run' can be actual distance covered or it can be horizontal distance covered.
So 100 % can be 90 degrees or 45 degrees, respectively b/c and b/a in the figure in the link below.
Can you provide any authoritative source for the 90° interpretation? As far as I am aware this is not an ambiguity, it is simply wrong. It is not even a USA/rest of the world thing as you can see from the US Geological Survey and (can't find an international reference...).
 
  • #12
In short: No. I just copied the warning.
Usually a “25% slope” means that b/a = 0.25 in the figure above...
(Be aware, however, that sometimes people use the term percent slope to mean b/c.##\quad##...)

To me it makes sense, because the 45 degree interpretation involves hefty surveying

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  • #13
BvU said:
To me it makes sense, because the 45 degree interpretation involves hefty surveying
Absolutely. Whether you are talking about cartography, architecture or setting out e.g. plumbing, you are working to a horizontal datum. So I think it is not good to introduce doubt: run is always horizontal and rise is always vertical.
 
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