Calculate motor/gear ratio on single axis

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The discussion focuses on calculating the motor and gear ratio for a motorized Dobsonian telescope. The user has measured that it requires approximately 2 lbs 15 ounces of force to rotate the telescope base 9 inches from its axis, resulting in a torque of 27 lb-in. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding torque calculations when adjusting the distance from the axis and the need for precise gear ratio and stepper motor strength calculations. The user plans to utilize Onstep for tracking and GoTo programming, and has successfully reduced friction using a lazy Susan bearing.

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Firstly, let me explain that I am mostly inept at mathematics. Piecing together the required information is becoming a real challenge because of that.

I am motorizing a dobsonian telescope. I have read many accounts of success and the steps involved. The places where detail is commonly left out are: defining worm gear ratio/size and stepper motor oz*in.

I understand the basic problem here, I need to find out force required to rotate the base of the telescope at different distances from it's axis. With the current amount of friction(which will change after a small redesign), I have measured that it requires approximately 2 lbs 15 ounces of force to rotate the base 9 inches from it's axis.

What I really need help with initially is how to extrapolate that data when moving closer to the axis. After that I can begin to calculate gear ratio, stepper motor strength and build my circuits. Some equation where I can input force required and distance from axis.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated
 
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You have a force of 3 lb acting at a radius of 9 inches . This means you have a torque of 3 lb x 9 inches or 27 lb - inches .

3 lb at 9 inches = 9 lb at 3 inches = 27 lb at 1 inch etc . The product of force and radius is always 27 .

Generally though for most gear and motor calculations only the actual torque is needed .

Post a picture or drawing of your telescope mount if you can .
 
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Thank you very much Nidum!
Here is the link to a page with a 360 degree view:
http://goo.gl/KOD0Vj
And a link to a page that has images and instructions to the same exact thing I'm attemtping:
http://goo.gl/YRX4Uk
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Thanks for that .

Looks like an interesting project .

Any particular design problems you want to discuss ?
 
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It's an exciting one, that's for sure. I bought a 3D printer and plan on printing my short-term/prototype gears out of nylon. I plan on using Onstep for the actual tracking and GoTo part of the programming. http://goo.gl/eDk5K4

Most of the hard parts are completed already (meaning the software and testing by others). I've fitted the bottom axis with a lazy susan bearing like in the second link I posted. That brought friction down to 5 ounces instead of 3 lbs! Those friction pads work! So if I understand you correctly, that should equal 4.5 lb -inches? Or 72 oz*in?
 

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