Calculate Orbital Velocity for 5130kg Satellite at Jupiter Orbit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital velocity of a satellite with a mass of 5130 kg at an altitude of 3.59E+5 m around Jupiter. Participants are exploring the relevant equations and parameters needed for the calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for orbital velocity and question whether the radius of Jupiter should be included in the calculations. There are attempts to correct the formula used and clarify the variables involved, particularly distinguishing between the mass of the satellite and the mass of Jupiter.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's approaches. There is recognition of the need to use the mass of Jupiter in the calculations, and some participants express uncertainty about their previous knowledge and the formulas being used.

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Participants mention a lapse in their understanding due to time since last engaging with similar problems, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that is being addressed through discussion.

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Homework Statement


you are in charge of placing a satellite of mass 5130kg into an orbit around the planet Jupiter. The orbit has an altitude of 3.59E+5m.

What is the orbital velocity of the satellite?


Homework Equations



Velocity = square root (G * m/r)

The Attempt at a Solution



Velocity = square root (6.67e-11 * 5130/3.59e+5)
V = 9.76e-7 which is Incorrect.

Any Help would be much appreciated!
 
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I think you'd need to add the radius of Jupiter to the 'r' in your equation.
 
rock.freak667 said:
I think you'd need to add the radius of Jupiter to the 'r' in your equation.

I have tried that:
V = square root( 6.67e-11 * 5130/7.218e7)
v=6.884e-8 m/s which is also Incorrect.
 
tigerwoods99 said:
I have tried that:
V = square root( 6.67e-11 * 5130/7.218e7)
v=6.884e-8 m/s which is also Incorrect.

your formula is missing a '2' in it. If I recall correctly it should be

[tex]v=\sqrt{2 \frac{GM}{r}}=\sqrt{2gr}[/tex]
 
rock.freak667 said:
your formula is missing a '2' in it. If I recall correctly it should be

[tex]v=\sqrt{2 \frac{GM}{r}}=\sqrt{2gr}[/tex]

I can't get that to work either!
 
tigerwoods99 said:
I can't get that to work either!

Sorry sorry, I remember it now.

[tex]\frac{mv^2}{r}=\frac{GMm}{r^2} \Rightarrow v = \sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}[/tex]


But I don't think M= mass of the satellite, m should be that mass of the planet.

(please excuse me, it's been 3 years since I've done these problems)
 
tigerwoods99 said:
I have tried that:
V = square root( 6.67e-11 * 5130/7.218e7)
v=6.884e-8 m/s which is also Incorrect.

The centripetal force required to keep the satellite in orbit around Jupiter is mv^2/r.
The attraction between the satellite and Jupiter is GMm/r^2.

If you set these two statements equal to each other, and little m is the mass of the satellite, does m not cancel? What do you get for v when you set these two equations equal to each other just using the symbols?

and the poster above has just shown this. You should be using the mass of Jupiter... that may be the problem.
 
pgardn said:
The centripetal force required to keep the satellite in orbit around Jupiter is mv^2/r.
The attraction between the satellite and Jupiter is GMm/r^2.

If you set these two statements equal to each other, and little m is the mass of the satellite, does m not cancel? What do you get for v when you set these two equations equal to each other just using the symbols?

and the poster above has just shown this. You should be using the mass of Jupiter... that may be the problem.

Thanks for the explanation!
 
rock.freak667 said:
sorry sorry, i remember it now.

[tex]\frac{mv^2}{r}=\frac{gmm}{r^2} \rightarrow v = \sqrt{\frac{gm}{r}}[/tex]


but i don't think m= mass of the satellite, m should be that mass of the planet.

(please excuse me, it's been 3 years since I've done these problems)

thanks!
 
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tigerwoods99 said:
Thanks for the explanation!

No problem.

The beauty is that it takes Newton's law of gravitation and says hey this is what is supplying the centripetal force to keep the satellite and orbit. You can do all sorts of interesting stuff with this equality.
 

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