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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a pole-vaulter who falls from a height of 5.0 meters and comes to rest after landing on a foam-rubber pad. The participants are tasked with calculating the athlete's velocity just before impact and the constant force exerted during the collision.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy to relate gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy. There are attempts to calculate the final velocity using kinematic equations, and some participants suggest comparing the time taken to fall with the time taken to decelerate upon landing.

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There are various approaches being explored, including the use of kinematic equations and energy conservation principles. Some participants have raised concerns about the accuracy of calculations and the proper application of formulas, while others have pointed out potential issues with sign conventions and significant figures. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem and the relationships between variables.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding the initial and final velocities, as well as the assumptions related to constant acceleration during the deceleration phase. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify these aspects without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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A 55kg pole-vaulter falls from rest from a height of 5.0m onto a foam-rubber pad. The pole-vaulter comes to rest 0.3s after landing on the pad.

a) Calculate the athletes's velocity just before reaching the pad.
b) Calculate the constant force exerted on the pole-vaulter due to the collition.

Thanks!
 
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We respectfully request that one show some effort and work with respect to the solution of the HW problem.

falls from rest from a height of 5.0m onto a foam-rubber pad . . .

a) Calculate the athletes's velocity just before reaching the pad.
Write the equation that shows the relationship between the change in gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy. Think conservation of energy.

b) constant force exerted
means constant acceleration.

The pole vaulter decelerates constantly for 0.3s. Compare this with how long it took to fall 5.0 m.
 
O.K. So this is what I have done so far:

First we calculate the final velocity of the vaulter using kinematics:

<br /> \[<br /> \begin{gathered}<br /> \Delta x = v_i \Delta t - \frac{1}<br /> {2}g\Delta t^2 {\text{ when }}v_i = 0{\text{ we&#039;ve got }} \hfill \\<br /> \Delta x = - \frac{1}<br /> {2}g\Delta t^2 {\text{ and}} \hfill \\<br /> \Delta t = \sqrt {\frac{{2\left( {{\text{5}}{\text{.0}}} \right)}}<br /> {g}} = 1.0{\text{s}} \hfill \\<br /> {\text{Now we can find the final velocity using }}v_f = v_i - g\Delta t: \hfill \\<br /> {\text{a) }}v_f = - 9.81\left( {1.0} \right) = - 9.81{\text{m/s}}{\text{.}} \hfill \\<br /> {\text{b) }}F\Delta t = m\left( {v_f - v_i } \right) \Rightarrow F = \frac{{55\left( {0 + 9.81} \right)}}<br /> {{0.3}} = 1798{\text{N}}{\text{.}} \hfill \\<br /> \hfill \\<br /> {\text{But according to the back of the book both of them a wrong}}{\text{.}} \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} <br /> \]<br />

Thanks!

PS: Sorry about that.
 
<br /> \[<br /> {\text{Got it }}v_f = \sqrt {2gh} <br /> \]<br />
 
depending on sig figs your velocity might be wrong.
also you could have gotten it faster using:
v_f^2=v_i^2+2a\Delta x

you also switched the values in your formula for average force:
F_{net}=\frac{m}{\Delta t}(v_f-v_i)

also your values for the final/initial velocity are wrong, you want final/initial velocity for the collision. -9.81 m/s will be your Initial velocity (because that is the speed at which the pole vaulter approaches the floor). You need final velocity, you know it takes .3s you know the acceleration it's experiencing so you can find the final velocity and plug that in.

Edit: hm..actually I don't think you need to do this last part, you only need to do it when the object bounces back up. your signs are just wrong in your final answer.
 
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sig figs issues :cry:

Thank you!
 
to143 said:
<br /> \[<br /> {\text{Got it }}v_f = \sqrt {2gh} <br /> \]<br />
Yes. Initially, one can use mgh = 1/2 mv2, since the object is in freefall from rest, so all the gravitational potential energy is converted to kinetic energy, and given the same mass, then gh = v2/2.

Slowing down is faster. Starting at v, the mass slows over \Delta{t} for an average acceleration (or deceleration) of a = \Delta{v}/\Delta{t} = v/\Delta{t}.

Please refer to

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html

and also

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/traj.html
 

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