Calculate the focal distance of the duplicate

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The discussion revolves around calculating the focal distance of a chromatic doublet lens system, which consists of two lenses with different refractive indices and curvatures. The original poster attempts to find the focal distance but expresses uncertainty about their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method for calculating the focal lengths of the individual lenses, considering the air gap between them. Questions are raised about the role of the refractive indices in the calculations and the implications of the lenses being close together.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the standard strategy for solving compound lens problems, emphasizing the importance of considering the air gap. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their approach after receiving feedback, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to treat the lenses as if they are surrounded by air, which may affect the calculations. The original poster's confusion about the formula and the role of the refractive indices suggests that assumptions about the lens setup are being questioned.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the focal distance of the duplicate
Relevant Equations
Lensmaker's equation
The picture below shows a so-called chromatic doublet, which is designed to minimize chromatic aberration, ie the wavelength dependence of the refractive index of the glass. The first lens has a flat first surface and a concave second surface with radius of curvature R and index of refraction n1 . The second lens is double convex with curvature radius R (refraction index n2) and sits close to the first lens. The lenses can be considered thin.

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Calculate the focal distance of the duplicate

My try:

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I seem to be getting the wrong answer. What am i doing wrong?

Correct answer is R/(2*n2 - n1 - 1)
 

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What did you use for the focal length of the second lens? Note that the figure shows a clear air gap between the two lenses. This means that you should find the two focal lengths as if the lenses were surrounded by air.

On edit: You need to adopt the standard strategy for solving compound lens problems of this kind: (a) Put an object at some finite distance ##s## in front of the combination; (b) find the position of the image ##s'##; (c) Treat the image as the object for the second lens (pay close attention to what is real and what is virtual); (d) find the position of the final image ##s''##; (e) let ##s## go to infinity and see what ##s''## becomes; (f) relate ##s''## to the focal length of the combination.

I tried this method for this problem and got the answer you quoted as correct.
 
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Why does ##n_1## appear in the formula for lens 2 while ##n_2## does not appear in the formula for lens 1 ?

Does close together mean zero in between ?
 
kuruman said:
What did you use for the focal length of the second lens? Note that the figure shows a clear air gap between the two lenses. This means that you should find the two focal lengths as if the lenses were surrounded by air.

On edit: You need to adopt the standard strategy for solving compound lens problems of this kind: (a) Put an object at some finite distance ##s## in front of the combination; (b) find the position of the image ##s'##; (c) Treat the image as the object for the second lens (pay close attention to what is real and what is virtual); (d) find the position of the final image ##s''##; (e) let ##s## go to infinity and see what ##s''## becomes; (f) relate ##s''## to the focal length of the combination.

I tried this method for this problem and got the answer you quoted as correct.
My bad I can see my mistake as you pointed out now. I didn't think of the air gap between the lenses. Thanks!
 

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