Calculate the gravitational force between these three masses

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force between three masses, focusing on the angles formed with the positive x-axis. Participants are examining the components of the net force and their respective angles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate angles based on the components of the net force, questioning the correctness of their calculations and the signs used in their equations. There is also confusion regarding the quadrant in which the resultant force lies.

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Some participants have offered insights regarding the signs of the components and the implications of the gravitational force being attractive. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to deducing angles from trigonometric functions, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are grappling with potential quadrant ambiguities and the correct interpretation of the gravitational force's nature, which may affect their calculations.

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Homework Statement
Three masses are located as follows:
Mass 1 with 𝑚1=5.25×106kg is at 𝑟⃗1=29.9m𝑖̂+17m𝑗̂. Mass 2 with 𝑚2=5.53×106kg is at 𝑟⃗2=40.4m𝑖̂+17m𝑗̂. Mass 3 with 𝑚3=3.2×106kg is at 𝑟⃗3=40.4m𝑖̂+35.4m𝑗̂. What angle does the net force on 𝑚3 make with the positive x-axis 𝑖̂? with the y-axis 𝑗̂?
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I calculated the magnitude of the net force on 𝑚3 due to 𝑚1 and 𝑚2 to be 5.790N.
Fnet on3 = 1.2365i + 5.657j
for the angle with positive x axis I did: component of fnetx = (magnitude of fnet)*costheta
1.23651 = 5.790*costheta
1.23651/5.790 = costheta
theta = 77.668 degrees

for the angle with positive y axis I did: component of fnety = (magnitude of fnet)*costheta
5.657 = 5.790*costheta
5.657/5.790 = costheta
theta = 12.30 degrees

But I am still getting both wrong. My magnitude of the net force is correct. Could someone please help me with this and let me know where am I making an error?
Thank you
 
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hraghav said:
What angle does the net force on 𝑚3 make with the positive x-axis 𝑖̂?
Measured anticlockwise from the positive x axis.
 
haruspex said:
Measured anticlockwise from the positive x axis.
Sorry I am just confused what would the equation look like then? would it be -component of fnetx = (magnitude of fnet)*costheta?
 
The components that you calculated place the resultant in the first quadrant. They would be correct if the gravitational force were repulsive instead of attractive. Make a drawing to see what's going on.
 
hraghav said:
Sorry I am just confused what would the equation look like then? would it be -component of fnetx = (magnitude of fnet)*costheta?
No. As @kuruman indicates, you have the wrong sign on "Fnet on 3".
When you have corrected that, you still need to be careful deducing angles from their trig functions because of quadrant ambiguities.
 

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