Calculate Torque at Point O due to Force F

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The discussion revolves around calculating the torque about point O due to a force \(\vec F\) applied to a rod in a specific configuration. The problem involves understanding the relationship between force, distance, and torque, with a focus on both magnitude and direction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate torque using the equation torque = Fl but is confused about the lever arm's orientation in their free body diagram. They seek clarification on how to proceed from their current understanding.
  • Some participants provide hints about the torque equation involving the cross product and the angle between the distance and force vectors, prompting further exploration of the direction of torque.
  • Questions arise regarding how to determine the direction of the torque, with options being discussed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and clarifications about the torque calculation and direction. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the direction of torque in different cases, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the torque (magnitude and direction) about point O due to the force \vec F in each of the cases sketched in the figure View Figure . In each case, the force \vec F and the rod both lie in the plane of the page, the rod has length 4.00 m and the force has magnitude 19.0 N.

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Calculate the magnitude of the torque in case (a).
Find the direction of the torque in case (a).


Homework Equations



torque = Fl

The Attempt at a Solution



First I drew a free body diagram for portion a.

Looks like this: http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/8995/54669928ap7.jpg

then I read that the lever arm is suppose to be perpendicular distance from axis of rotation to line of action of force.

But in my free body diagram, the l is not perpendicular to the force, so this is where I am stuck.

After this how do I proceed. ?

Please and thank you.
 
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Hint: Your torque equation is missing something.

Torque is the cross product between the distance vector (the distance from the pivot point to the point where the force is applied) and the force vector.

Tau = r x F = r*F*sin(theta).

where,

F is the applied force
r is the distance from the pivot point to the applied force
theta is the angle between r and F.


BTW "x" in the r x F term means cross product not multiply.
 
ok using that equation, I got that it correct, but now how would I determine the direction of the torque.

these are my options:

into the page
out of the page
to the right
upward <---I would say this.
the torque is zero

I was able to find the torque in each scenario presented, but how is the direction determined?
 
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after reading from that site, I would think case a,b,c go into the page, d goes out of the page, e is zero and f is zero.

is this right?
 
a, b, and c are pointing out. d is pointing in. e and f are correct.

Put the vectors (r and F) tail to tail, then use the right-hand rule. Sweep from r to F with your fingers.
 

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