How Do You Calculate Torque and Power for Rotational Motion in Space?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating torque and power for a rod that needs to rotate from point A to B over a specified time period. The context includes considerations for both a standard environment and a weightless scenario in space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between torque, power, and angular velocity, with one participant attempting to calculate angular velocity based on the given time frame. Questions arise regarding the nature of the motion, including whether torque and power should remain constant or vary during the maneuver.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the completeness of the problem statement and the assumptions made about the motion. Some guidance is offered regarding the calculation of torque and the implications of weightlessness, while others highlight the need for additional details such as initial and final velocities and the nature of acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may be underspecified, requiring clarification on constraints such as the type of acceleration and the forces involved during the motion. There is mention of potential limitations, such as energy constraints for the maneuver.

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Homework Statement


So I need to move this rod with length r from point A to B as shown. It has to rotate from A to B which is 90° within 10 seconds. What I want to calculate is the torque and power required if a motor was to produce this motion (location of the motor is shown in the diagram). Can you then also calculate the torque and power required from the motor if this was in space (object is weightless, but the mass is still there). you can ignore friction and other small effects. here's the link for the diagram http://imgur.com/a/egtnK

Homework Equations


P = T * w
w - angular velocity
T - Torque
P - Power

The Attempt at a Solution


So I'm guessing using the above equation we can find power required for the motor?
So I can calculate angular velocity as follows,
w = 90/10 = pi/20 radians per second.

But now how do I calculate torque? What happens in space when there's no weight?

Thank you in advance
 
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The angular velocity cannot be constant. The rod has to be accelerated at some finite rate...

Rajika said:
the torque and power required
... consequently, torque, or power, or both must vary. Is the constraint constant torque or constant power?
Rajika said:
I can calculate angular velocity as follows,
w = 90/10 = pi/20 radians per second.
That's the average angular velocity.
 
Welcome to PF;
Torque is calculated in the normal way - how would you usually go about it?
Weight is just the force due to gravitation - when you do not have any weight, just don't include that force in your calculations.

Note: the problem presented seems to be underspecified:
You want to get something from position p to position q, and it has an initial and final orientation.
You also need to know the initial and final speeds as well as the time required for the manouver... and you need to specify if the move is done under constant acceleration or what.

In general, you divide the motion into translation of the center of mass and rotation about the center of mass... and you need vector equations.
 
so I want the initial velocity and the final velocity to be zero. I want the rod to move from point A to B in 10 seconds.
 
Rajika said:
so I want the initial velocity and the final velocity to be zero. I want the rod to move from point A to B in 10 seconds.
There are literally an infinite number of ways to do this ... you will need at least two forces and two torques, which each must act over some subset of the 10s time period for the motion. ie. do you want 5s acceleration and 5s deceleration? Or do you want the acceleration and deceleration to be very short - like getting hit by a mallet? (In which case we probably want specific-impulse forms of the laws). What are the constraints? ie. are you limited in available energy for the manouver (ie a rocket would have limited fuel).
 

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