Calculating Car Mass with Constant Speed on a Bridge

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car traveling at a constant speed of 20 m/s while crossing a bridge. The car exerts a force of 3000 N, and participants are tasked with calculating the mass of the car. There are questions regarding the implications of constant speed and the nature of the forces involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the implications of constant speed on acceleration and force, questioning how a force can exist if acceleration is zero. Some suggest that the problem may lack clarity or necessary details, particularly regarding the context of the force exerted by the car.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about the problem's setup and questioning the adequacy of the information provided. Some have offered insights into the potential need for additional context, while others are examining the definitions and relationships between speed, force, and mass.

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There is mention of a second part to the question regarding the safety of the bridge, which introduces further complexity. Participants note that the question may be aimed at a specific educational level, suggesting it might require more precise wording or information.

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If a car is traveling towards a bridge at a constant speed of 20ms-1. The bridge takes 30s to cross entirely. The car creates a force of 3000N. Calculate the mass of the car when it is on the bridge.


a=(v2-v1)/t
F=ma

I figured that a = 0 due to the fact that the car is traveling at constant speed.
If a = 0 then isn't it impossible for the car to create a force of 3000N? I am very confused?
 
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Lee80 said:
If a car is traveling towards a bridge at a constant speed of 20ms-1. The bridge takes 30s to cross entirely. The car creates a force of 3000N. Calculate the mass of the car when it is on the bridge.a=(v2-v1)/t
F=ma

I figured that a = 0 due to the fact that the car is traveling at constant speed.
If a = 0 then isn't it impossible for the car to create a force of 3000N? I am very confused?
First,the speed is expressed as m/s not ms-1.
When does the car create a force of 3000N?On the start of bridge?

Edit:Oh I forgot.Welcome to PF :smile:
 
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Lee80 said:
If a car is traveling towards a bridge at a constant speed of 20ms-1. The bridge takes 30s to cross entirely. The car creates a force of 3000N. Calculate the mass of the car when it is on the bridge.


a=(v2-v1)/t
F=ma

I figured that a = 0 due to the fact that the car is traveling at constant speed.
If a = 0 then isn't it impossible for the car to create a force of 3000N? I am very confused?

Hi Lee80! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

I'm a little confused by the question, too. Perhaps the bridge is curved, maybe semicircular? It is not clear whether this 3000N is a vector sum of multiple forces, including also that force known as the vehicle's weight.

Are you sure you have quoted the question details in full?
 
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Thanks for the welcome! :)
I have written the question exactly the way it is on the page including the ms-1, which i know is supposed to be superscript but isn't it interchangable with m/s? Anyway the only extra info given was a second part to the question which asks "The bridge can support a mass of 5 tonne or less safely. Is it safe for the car to travel across the bridge?"
I don't think the question is correct? I think it needs more info. The question is supposed to be aimed at year 11 physics.
 
Lee80 said:
I have written the question exactly the way it is on the page
Pity, because it sounded like the basis of a good question: "If the bridge is of level height but curves around the coastline in a semicircular arc, determine that radius of curvature, and the length of the bridge ..." :smile:

including the ms-1, which i know is supposed to be superscript but isn't it interchangable with m/s?
Sure is.

Anyway the only extra info given was a second part to the question which asks "The bridge can support a mass of 5 tonne or less safely. Is it safe for the car to travel across the bridge?"
I don't think the question is correct? I think it needs more info. The question is supposed to be aimed at year 11 physics.
There is either too much information provided, or else not enough. :wink: But something's amiss.
 
Lee80 said:
Thanks for the welcome! :)
I have written the question exactly the way it is on the page including the ms-1, which i know is supposed to be superscript but isn't it interchangeable with m/s?

Yes, if the -1 is a superscript then they're interchangeable.

Use the X2 icon above the message box for superscripts.


m/s is ms-1 .
 

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