Calculating Charge in a Ring of Charge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field experienced by a point within a ring of charge that is not located at the center. Participants are exploring the mathematical setup and integration required for this problem in the context of electrostatics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the expression for the electric field due to a differential charge element and question how to set up the integral for the electric field calculation. There is also inquiry about the significance of the point's position relative to the center of the ring and how to determine the angle for integration.

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Some participants have provided insights into the integration process, suggesting the use of an angle parameter and the need to express the radius as a function of that angle. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the specifics of the integration limits and the implications of the point's off-center position.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of integrating over a ring of charge while considering the geometry of the situation, including the angle from the center of the ring and the relationship between the point's position and the charge distribution.

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For a ring of charge centered about the origin, how would you calculate the charge experienced by a point within the ring of charge but not at the center?
So, I know for a ring of charge dE_x = kdq / r^2 = (k*lambda*ds) / r^2 where ds is the arc length.

Then what do I integrate over?
And does the fact that the point isn't at the center/origin, important?
I'm guessing I need to solve that integral, then determine q.
 
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jaejoon89 said:
For a ring of charge centered about the origin, how would you calculate the charge experienced by a point within the ring of charge but not at the center?

So, I know for a ring of charge dE_x = kdq / r^2 = (k*lambda*ds) / r^2 where ds is the arc length.

Then what do I integrate over?
And does the fact that the point isn't at the center/origin, important?
I'm guessing I need to solve that integral, then determine q.

Hi jaejoon89! :smile:

You integrate over a small arc, of length r dθ, where θ is the angle from the centre of the ring. :smile:
 
How do you find the angle from the center of the ring in this case? Here would you just do the angle from the point (it is off center)?
 
θ is the angle around the ring, taken from the center. Integrate over θ from 0 to 2 pi.

You'll also need to figure out r as a function of θ.
 

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