Calculating Christoffell Symbols of Second Kind for Cartesian Space

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Christoffel symbols of the second kind for a surface defined by a specific function involving Cartesian coordinates. The original poster presents a mathematical expression and references relevant equations from the Euler-Lagrangian framework.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the given equations and the Christoffel symbols, with one participant attempting to derive the metric based on the surface's derivatives. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of variables in the equations presented.

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Some participants have provided guidance on deriving the metric and using standard formulas for the Christoffel symbols. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with multiple interpretations and approaches being discussed.

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Homework Statement



Let a surface be define by z = x^(a=3) = f[x^(a=1,2)]

Show that the Christoffell sybols of the 2nd kind are:

[Christoffell symbol]^abc = { fafbc }/ { f^[tex]\alpha[/tex] f_sub_[tex]\alpha[/tex] }

where indices on f indicates partial derivatives

Homework Equations



(d^2 x/dt^2)^[tex]\alpha[/tex] + [Christoffell symbol]^[tex]\alpha[/tex]BC (dx/dt)^B (dx/dt)^C = 0

compare with:

Euler-Lagrangian Equation

The Attempt at a Solution



E-L equatiion: x** - m dz*/dx* = -g dz/dx

compare with the first relevant equation...

how? what is x*^B and x*^C in the first equation
 
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have you got an online version of the question or picture because it is hard to make sense of this thing
 
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you have a 2d metric that only depends on the derivatives of f . You can derive it to be

[tex]g = \begin{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> 1+(\partial_1 f)^2 & \partial_1 f \partial_2 f \\<br /> \partial_1 f \partial_2 f & 1+(\partial_2 f)^2 \end{pmatrix}[/tex]

or in component form and using your notation

[tex]g_{ab} = \delta_{ab} +f_a f_b[/tex]

then you can use the standard formula for the Christoffel symbols

[tex]\Gamma^{a}_{bc} = \frac{1}{2} g^{ad} (\partial_c g_{bd} +\partial_b g_{cd} - \partial_d g_{bc} )[/tex]

the inverse metric is a bit harder to write down in component form but it is possible
 

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