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The forum discussion centers on evaluating the limit of the expression (cos(h) - 1) / h as h approaches 0, specifically using values of h = 0.1, 0.01, 0.001, and 0.0001. Participants clarify that the correct interpretation of the expression is crucial, emphasizing the need for proper parentheses to distinguish between the cosine function and the hyperbolic cosine function. The limit is confirmed to approach zero, which aligns with the derivative of cos(x) at x=0, although some users experience discrepancies in their calculator outputs.

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Homework Statement



Use a calculator to evaluate the quantity (cosh-1) / h for h = 0.1, 0.01, 0.001, and 0.0001.
Estimate the value of the limit of h -> 0 of (cos h -1) / h


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okay so at 0.1 it is 1.523 x 10^-5 and it goes on like that
I'm in Degree mode but I don't think it'll matter.
I know the derivative of cosx is -Sinx but for some reason when I plug the numbers in, they don't match. Please help!
 
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Is your function [cos(h-1)]/h? If you don't use parentheses properly, cos h can be confused with the hyperbolic cosine (cosh).

And yes, if it is [cos (h-1)]/h, you probably should be using radians instead of degrees for your calculations, particularly when evaluating limits.
 
SteamKing said:
Is your function [cos(h-1)]/h? If you don't use parentheses properly, cos h can be confused with the hyperbolic cosine (cosh).

And yes, if it is [cos (h-1)]/h, you probably should be using radians instead of degrees for your calculations, particularly when evaluating limits.


I think it's cos(h-1) the question has it written the way I wrote it. H is the same as ΔX because it is a limit. Okay, but is my assumption that the value should be equivalent to sin correct?
 
physphys said:

Homework Statement



Use a calculator to evaluate the quantity (cosh-1) / h for h = 0.1, 0.01, 0.001, and 0.0001.
Estimate the value of the limit of h -> 0 of (cos h -1) / h


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


okay so at 0.1 it is 1.523 x 10^-5 and it goes on like that
I'm in Degree mode but I don't think it'll matter.
I know the derivative of cosx is -Sinx but for some reason when I plug the numbers in, they don't match. Please help!

Do you mean
\frac{\cosh(-1)}{h},\\<br /> \cosh\left(\frac{-1}{h}\right),\\<br /> \frac{\cos(h-1)}{h}, \text{ or}\\<br /> \cos \left( \frac{h-1}{h}\right)?
What you wrote is most consistent with the *first* interpretation, but the others can also be inferred reasonably. Obviously, you need to use parentheses, like this: cosh(-1)/h or cosh(-1/h) or cos(h-1)/h or cos[(h-1)/h].
 
Based on what the OP is tasked with doing, I'm guessing the correct interpretation is

$$\frac{cos(h)-1}{h},$$
which appears in the calculation of the derivative of ##\sin(x)##.
 
Mute said:
Based on what the OP is tasked with doing, I'm guessing the correct interpretation is

$$\frac{cos(h)-1}{h},$$
which appears in the calculation of the derivative of ##\sin(x)##.

yes that's what I meant, $$\frac{cos(h)-1}{h},$$
I know that it is in fact the derivative of sinx but when I input the values it tells me in the calculator I'm not getting the same.
 
physphys said:
yes that's what I meant, $$\frac{cos(h)-1}{h},$$
I know that it is in fact the derivative of sinx but when I input the values it tells me in the calculator I'm not getting the same.

No, it's not the derivative of sin(x), it's a difference quotient for the derivative of cos(x) at x=0. What does your calculator tell you?
 
physphys said:
yes that's what I meant, $$\frac{cos(h)-1}{h},$$
I know that it is in fact the derivative of sinx but when I input the values it tells me in the calculator I'm not getting the same.

Of course, this is just part of the calculation for the derivative of sin(x). Your original post looks like it shows that this fraction goes to zero. That's what it should do. What about the rest of the calculation?
 

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