Calculating density charge with and EF

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The problem involves a solid sphere with a charge density that varies with distance from the center, and participants are tasked with calculating the charge density and the electric field both inside and outside the sphere. The discussion centers around applying Gauss' law to relate the electric field to charge density.

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  • Participants discuss the use of Gauss' law in differential form to find charge density, questioning the necessity of this approach. There are inquiries about the relationship between charge density and electric field, and some participants express uncertainty about specific factors in their equations.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of integration techniques, and there is a mix of agreement and questioning about the correctness of the approaches taken.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of missing factors in their equations and the challenges of performing integrations related to the electric field outside the sphere.

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Problem : Supose that there is a solid sphere of radius R , with density charge that's depends of the distance to the centre of the sphere ( p = p(r)) :

Question: supose that we know the electric field inside the sphere that is:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3237/dibujowks.jpg"

where A and b are positive constants. Calculate the density charge inside the sphere and the electric field outside the sphere.
 
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Do you know any equations that might be useful in relating charge density and electric field?
 
Well, you know what the electric field inside the sphere is, so why not start by using Gauss' law (in differential form!) to find the charge density there,,,,
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Well, you know what the electric field inside the sphere is, so why not start by using Gauss' law (in differential form!) to find the charge density there,,,,

why in differential form?
 
The differential form gives you [itex]\rho[/itex] directly! The integral form gives you [itex]\int \rho dV[/itex]. Since [itex]\rho[/itex] is what you're looking for, surely you must agree that the differential form is the best way to go.
 
nicksauce said:
The differential form gives you [itex]\rho[/itex] directly! The integral form gives you [itex]\int \rho dV[/itex]. Since [itex]\rho[/itex] is what you're looking for, surely you must agree that the differential form is the best way to go.

ok perfect this is what i did:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2251/dibujoxzv.jpg"
 
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You seem to have dropped the factor of [itex]\frac{1}{\epsilon_0}[/itex] when you replaced (2) in (1)
 
gabbagabbahey said:
You seem to have dropped the factor of [itex]\frac{1}{\epsilon_0}[/itex] when you replaced (2) in (1)

mmm... i think is correct...
 
mmm...I don't...

what happened to the [itex]\frac{1}{\epsilon_0}[/itex] that was part of your expression for [itex]E[/itex]?
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
mmm...I don't...

what happened to the [itex]\frac{1}{\epsilon_0}[/itex] that was part of your expression for [itex]E[/itex]?

SORRY YOU ARE RIGHT , is the same formula but without the epsilon 0.

thats was for part a) , now for calulating the E.F for outisde the sphere i got this:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8785/dddv.png"

for this i don't know how to solve the integration.. please help...!
 
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It's just an exercise in integration by parts. First work out [itex]\int xe^{-x}dx[/itex], then x^2 and x^3.
 
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nicksauce said:
It's just an exercise in integration by parts. First work out [itex]\int xe^{-x}dx[/itex], then x^2 and x^3.

ok i have done it , but besides the integration do you feel my answer is correct?

thanks
 
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looks fine to me.
 

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