Calculating Displacement of a Charged Particle in a Constant Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the displacement of a charged particle in a constant electric field. The problem involves a particle with a known charge and mass, released from rest in a specified electric field, and seeks to determine its displacement after a given time interval.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric force and electric field, questioning how to apply kinematic equations to the scenario. There are attempts to clarify the initial conditions and the implications of the electric field on the particle's motion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using kinematic equations and Newton's second law to approach the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some members expressing confusion about specific steps and terminology.

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There is mention of the original poster's struggle with the foundational concepts of electric fields and forces, as well as a noted effort to engage with the textbook material prior to seeking help. Participants also discuss the notation used in calculations, particularly regarding scientific notation.

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Hey everyone,

I know the rules are post your own work first but I have no clue. I don't want answers though, I simply want to know what to do to get the answer.

Anyways, if it's ok, here's the question...


Book: Cutnell & Johnson Physics 7th Edition
pp. 569 #40


A particle of charge +12 uC and mass 3.8 x 10^-5 kg is released from rest in a region where there is a constant electric field of +480 N/C. What is the displacement of the particle after a time of 1.6 x 10^-2 s?

Here's what I can gather to be given...

Particle Charge: +12 x 10^-6 C
Particle Mass: 3.8 x 10^-5 kg
Initial Velocity: ?
Electric Field: +480 N/C

I have the equations for Kinematics, Newton's Second Law, and The Electric Field... but I don't know how to implement my data. Am I missing something?

Thanks for you help everyone!
 
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The so-called "equations of kinematics" keep track of the position of a particle under the action of a constant force, right? For a constant force F in the x-direction, the equation of kinematics is

[tex]x(t)=x_0+v_0t+\frac{F}{2m}t^2[/tex]

Now... what you have is a particle in a constant electric field. How is the electric force F on a particle of charge Q related to the field E (at the location of Q)? Is that a constant force? If so, you can use the above equation to find the motion and solve for the appropriate time.
 
I'm sorry... I don't understand :frown:
 
duki said:
I'm sorry... I don't understand :frown:

It is clear that the initial velocity is ZERO. It says so right in the problem!

I have helped you in another thread regarding E&M. I think it is in your best interest to read the assigned readings in your book a few times. You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of electric field, acceleration, and whatnot. You need to learn the basics before diving into problem solving.

You know the E-field, and you know the charge of the particle in the e-field. If you knew what the meaning of the e-field was, it would be trivial for you to determine the force on the particle.

If you knew the force on the particle you can easily determine the acceleration of th particle using Newton's second law.

If you knew the acceleration of the particle you can find the displacement of the particle after any given amount of time. You can use the following kinematic equation for when the initial velocity and initial displacement are both zero: displacement = 0.5At^2

Go to the library and read your book for a few hours. You can't expect to learn this stuff without attempting to look in your book.
 
leright said:
It is clear that the initial velocity is ZERO. It says so right in the problem!

I have helped you in another thread regarding E&M. I think it is in your best interest to read the assigned readings in your book a few times. You seem to be having trouble with the meaning of electric field, acceleration, and whatnot. You need to learn the basics before diving into problem solving.

You know the E-field, and you know the charge of the particle in the e-field. If you knew what the meaning of the e-field was, it would be trivial for you to determine the force on the particle.

If you knew the force on the particle you can easily determine the acceleration of th particle using Newton's second law.

If you knew the acceleration of the particle you can find the displacement of the particle after any given amount of time. You can use the following kinematic equation for when the initial velocity and initial displacement are both zero: displacement = 0.5At^2

Go to the library and read your book for a few hours. You can't expect to learn this stuff without attempting to look in your book.

Oh ok thanks, that clears up a lot. I don't want you to think I haven't been trying this stuff on my own. I spent close to 3 hours reading the chapter and taking notes before posting yesterday. I'm really trying to understand this stuff... :redface: :redface:

I appreciate your help... :smile:
 
Alright, here's what I've come up with.Given:

q = 12 x 10^-6
m = 3.8 x 10^-5
N/C = +480
t = 1.6 x 10^-2
Work:

F = (12 x 10^-6) x (480) = 5.76 x 10^-.03 (I wasn't sure about this. My calculator just says ^-03 so I assume it

means .03)

a = (5.76 x 10^-.03) / (3.8 x 10^-5) = 141,461.7

d = .5(141,461.7) x (1.6x10^-2)^2 = 18.11Am I doing this right? I hope so because I'm starting to understand it all now... :smile:
 
duki said:
Alright, here's what I've come up with.


Given:

q = 12 x 10^-6
m = 3.8 x 10^-5
N/C = +480
t = 1.6 x 10^-2



Work:

F = (12 x 10^-6) x (480) = 5.76 x 10^-.03 (I wasn't sure about this. My calculator just says ^-03 so I assume it

means .03)

a = (5.76 x 10^-.03) / (3.8 x 10^-5) = 141,461.7

d = .5(141,461.7) x (1.6x10^-2)^2 = 18.11


Am I doing this right? I hope so because I'm starting to understand it all now... :smile:

No, your calculator means exactly what is says! When it displays 5.76x10^-03 it means exactly that! Why would you think it means 5.76x10^-.03?

Otherwise, looks like you did it right. Don't forget your units.
 
Oh ok. Why does it say 03? is that just 3?Thanks again. Sorry I'm so slow with this stuff... I've never had physics in my life =/

I got 1.21 m
 
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Yes, 03 is just 3. why it writes 03 instead of 3 is probably because it was programmed to write the units on the right and the "tens" on the left. So 03 means 0 tens, 3 units. Is "tens" the right word ?!
 
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quasar987 said:
Yes, 03 is just 3. why it writes 03 instead of 3 is probably because it was programmed to write the units on the right and the "tens" on the left. So 03 means 0 tens, 3 units. Is "tens" the right word ?!


HaHa! That sounds like a probable reasoning...

Does anyone know if I have the right answer?

edit: on the given (1st post) I have Particle Charge: +12 x 10^-6 C ... It's actually +12 uC. Did I convert that right? I'm seeing a lot of people putting 1 / +12 x 10^-6
 
  • #11
duki said:
Does anyone know if I have the right answer?

leright said in his last post,

"Otherwise, looks like you did it right. Don't forget your units."
duki said:
edit: on the given (1st post) I have Particle Charge: +12 x 10^-6 C ... It's actually +12 uC. Did I convert that right? I'm seeing a lot of people putting 1 / +12 x 10^-6
Tell those people they are mistaken.

[tex]1 \mu C=10^{-6}C[/tex]
 
  • #12
quasar987 said:
leright said in his last post,

"Otherwise, looks like you did it right. Don't forget your units."


Great! So 1.12m is right!

quasar987 said:
Tell those people they are mistaken.

[tex]1 \mu C=10^{-6}C[/tex]

I thought so. I could understand say 1/10^6 in order to keep from having a negative in the powers place.
 

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