Calculating Electric Field Above a Disc of Charge

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the electric field above a disc of charge with a given surface charge density and radius. It requires understanding the relationship between the electric field and the geometry of the charge distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the effects of concentric loops to derive the electric field for a disc, with some questioning the validity of a direct substitution of variables. There is confusion regarding the limits of the electric field as the radius approaches infinity and the conditions under which z is much greater than R.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and clarifying the conditions stated in the question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to take, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the derived expressions.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion about the limits of z in relation to R, as well as the implications of the problem's requirements for calculating the electric field. Participants are also addressing the potential for misunderstanding the original problem statement.

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Homework Statement



The electric field, E a distance z above a circular loop of charge density lambda, radius r, in the x-y plane centred on the origin, is given by

E(z)=[lambda z r] i(subscript z)/[2 epsilon0((z^2 + r^2)^(3/2))]

a) using this, find the electric field, E, a distance z above a disc of radius R and surface charge density sigma (8 marks)
b) describe the limits of E for the disc at R tends to infinity and z>>0 (4 marks)

The Attempt at a Solution



a) E(z)=[sigma z R] i(subscript z)/[2 epsilon0((z^2 + R^2)^(3/2))]

I don't think that's going to gain me the full 8 marks and I have no idea what to do next. Please help

b) I can't even make sense of it. How can z>>R if R tends to infinity?
 
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a) A disk of charge could be considered to be made up a large number of concentric loops of charge. You'd need to sum (think - integrate) the effects of many infinitesimally thin loops to get the field of a disk. To me, looks like you've just replaced r -> R and charge per unit length with charge per unit area which is wrong.

b) Question says z>>0, not z>>R.
 


but the question does say z>>R, I just checked
 


I made a mistake the first time I typed the question
 


never mind, I just found out that z>>R and z tends to infinity are two separate ques
 


E=[pi sigma z/[2 epsilon0]] ((1/z) -1/(sqrt(R^2 +z^2)))

so as R tends to infinity

E=p[i sigma/[2 epsilon0]] z(1/z -0)
=pi sigma/[2 epsilon0]??
 
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Looks plausible :) not going to thoroughly check it... you should try and convince yourself whether it is right or not. Does it seem sensible to you?
 

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