Calculating Energy Requirements for Satellite Placement in Circular Earth Orbit

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The problem involves calculating the total energy required to place a satellite in a circular orbit around the Earth, specifically at an altitude of 500 km. The discussion centers on gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy in the context of orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for calculating energy, questioning the presence of a -1/2 factor and exploring different expressions for total energy. There are attempts to clarify the correct values for radius and energy calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the correctness of the given answer. Some participants are exploring alternative methods and expressing uncertainty about the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted typo regarding the altitude of the satellite, which was initially misrepresented in meters instead of kilometers. Participants are also grappling with the implications of different energy equations and their respective outcomes.

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Hey everyone,

The following question is giving my friend and I a really hard time. My work is shown below.

'what is the total amount of energy needed to place a 2.0 x 10^3 kg satellite in circular Earth orbit, at an altitude of 5.0 x 10^2km above the surface of the earth?

Here are all the numbers needed to carry out the problem:

M = 5.8 x 10^24 kg (mass of earth)
m = 5.0 x 10 3 kg (mass of satellite)
r1 = 6.38 x 10^6 m (radius of earth)
r2 = 5.0 x 10^5 m + 6.38 x 10^6 m (altitude plus radius of earth)
G = 6.67 x 10^-11 N/kg. (Earth's gravitational field strength)

I figured that the energy needed would be equal to the energy of the satellite in orbit minus the energy of the satellite on Earth's surface...giving thus:

E(needed) = -1/2(GMm/r2) - (-GMm/r1)

where did I go wrong?

Thx!
 
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you have r2 as 500m instead of 500 km.
Or, is that a typo ?
 
uh...oops...lol, thanks man. yea that should be 500 km. i'll edit it out in the first post.
 
alright, but it still gives me the wrong answer...the correct one is 6.7 x 10^10 J.
 
rocketboy said:
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E(needed) = -1/2(GMm/r2) - (-GMm/r1)
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Just noticed, where did the -1/2 come from ? is that another typo ?
 
the equation for total energy is -1/2(GMm/r2) is it not?
 
rocketboy said:
alright, but it still gives me the wrong answer...the correct one is 6.7 x 10^10 J.
Hmm, I got 8.8 x 10^9 J.
I'll check my working.
 
rocketboy said:
the equation for total energy is -1/2(GMm/r2) is it not?
To be honest, I've never seen that expression.
I used calculus and got,
E(needed) = GMm(1/r1 - 1/r2)
 
Interesting...using my method I got a similar answer to yours.

I'm starting to think the answer given to me is wrong. Thanks a lot for all your help man!
 

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