Calculating Final Temperature of Two Solids in Thermal Contact

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The problem involves two solids, A and B, in thermal contact, where solid A is at its melting point and solid B is at a higher temperature. The discussion centers around calculating the final temperature after solid A completely melts, considering the latent heat of fusion and heat capacities of both solids.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the energy balance equations involving latent heat and heat capacities. There are questions about the cancellation of mass terms in the equations and the reasoning behind the algebraic steps taken.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify the reasoning behind the algebraic manipulations, while others are exploring the physics concepts related to heat transfer and energy conservation. There is an ongoing examination of the steps involved in the calculations without reaching a consensus on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the application of the heat transfer equations, and participants are encouraged to break down the problem into stages for clarity. Some participants suggest that foundational concepts may need to be revisited before proceeding further.

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Homework Statement


55. Solid A, with mass M, is at its melting point TA. It is placed in thermal contact with solid B, with heat capacity CB and initially at temperature TB (TB > TA). The combination is thermally isolated. A has latent heat of fusion L and when it has melted has heat capacity CA. If A completely melts the final temperature of both A and B is:
A. (CATA + CBTB − ML)/(CA + CB)
B. (CATA − CBTB + ML)/(CA + CB)
C. (CATA − CBTB − ML)/(CA + CB)
D. (CATA + CBTB + ML)/(CA − CB)
E. (CATA + CBTB + ML)/(CA − CB)
correct answer is A ?

Homework Equations


Q=mL+mCdeltaT

The Attempt at a Solution


in A Q1=ML+MCATfinal-MCATA
in B Q=mCBTfinal-mCBTB
-Q1=Q
-ML-MCATfinal+MCATA=mCBTfinal-mCBTB
-ML+MCATA+mCNTB=MCATf+mCBTf
Tf=(MCATA+mCBTB-ML)/(MCA+mCB)
how they get rid of the m in the above equation?
 
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Q=mL=mCdeltaT
... this is not strictly correct because mL is not usually going to be equal to mCdeltaT.

how they get rid of the m in the above equation?
... you need to explain the reasoning (physics) behind your maths, but basically, in one of the steps, the "m" terms cancel out.
Try dividing the problem into two stages. Take the algebra carefully, step by step, and explain each step you do.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Q=mL=mCdeltaT
sorry it is a keyboard mistake I mean Q=mL+mCdeltaT
 
Any Help said:
sorry it is a keyboard mistake I mean Q=mL+mCdeltaT
Um OK. So what is your reasoning?

Note: you should probably get the concepts down from the other question before tackling this one.
 

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