Calculating Force in a Hydraulic Press

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by the output piston in a hydraulic press, given the radii of the input and output pistons and the force applied to the input piston. The subject area includes concepts of fluid mechanics and pressure calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure and force, questioning how to apply the pressure formula correctly. There are attempts to calculate the pressure and force using the areas of the pistons, with some confusion about the application of the formulas.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing calculations and others questioning the methods used. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the use of areas versus radii in the calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the problem, but no consensus on the final solution has been reached.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the application of the area in the force calculation, and participants are working through the implications of using the correct formulas and values. The original poster's calculations are noted to be incorrect, prompting further discussion on the proper approach.

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Homework Statement


In the hydraulic press used in a trash compactor, the radius of the input piston and the output piston are 0.00640 meters and 0.0510 meters, respectively. The height difference between the input piston and the output piston can be neglected. Calculate the force exerted by the output piston when the force applied to the input piston is 330 N?


Homework Equations



P= F / A = F=P*A


The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure what to use as pressure to find the force?

F=P* 0.0510
 
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p = 330/(0.0064)=46875 N/m2

Then...

F=P*A

F=46875* 0.0064= 300N

So the 300N is the force exerted on the output piston?
 
C-A-L said:
p = 330/(0.0064)=46875 N/m2

Then...

F=P*A

F=46875* 0.0064= 300N

So the 300N is the force exerted on the output piston?

uhh? :redface:

all you've done is divide by .0064, and then multiply by it again …

though somehow you didn't get back to where you started from :confused:

start again, this time use both radiuses, also remember it isn't radius, it's area in the formula :smile:
 
input 0.006402*3.14= 1.29 x 10-4
output area equals .00816

F=46875* (0.00816*0.000129)
=4.93NThis is what I have but I know it's wrong because the force is to small, where did I go wrong?
 
Hi C-A-L! :smile:
C-A-L said:
F=46875* (0.00816*0.000129)
=4.93N

Your areas are correct, but I don't understand this equation at all :confused:

you should always write out your formula first, in this case using F1 F2 A1 and A2

what is it?​
 
I see where I was confused I setup the problem F1A2=F2A1
I found the answer thank you for your help.
 

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