Calculating Force on a Scale in an Elevator: A 57.0 kg Girl's Weight Measurement

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The problem involves calculating the force exerted by a scale when a girl stands on it in an elevator under different conditions: descending at a constant speed, accelerating downward, and experiencing a decrease in speed while descending. The subject area includes dynamics and forces.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the forces using Newton's second law and considers different scenarios of motion. Some participants question the sign conventions used in the calculations and suggest corrections. Others express confusion about how to relate velocity to the problem when acceleration is provided.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on sign conventions and clarifying the relationship between acceleration and velocity. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the effects of acceleration on the forces measured by the scale.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the direction of forces and acceleration, as well as the distinction between speed and acceleration in the context of the problem. There is an emphasis on ensuring correct sign usage in the equations.

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Homework Statement



A 57.0 kg girl weighs herself by standing on a scale in an elevator. What is the force exerted by the scale when the elevator is descending at a constant speed of 10 m/s?
What is the force exerted by the scale if the elevator is accelerating downward with an acceleration of 2.0 m/s2?
If the elevator's descending speed is measured at 10 m/s at a given point, but its speed is decreasing by 2.0 m/s2, what is the force exerted by the scale?

Homework Equations


F=ma, Fs-W=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


I got the first part, 9.8(57) = 558.6 N.

For the second part I used Fs-W=ma, Fs - 558.6 = (57)2, Fs= 672 N. But that was wrong...?

For the 3rd part, I used F=ma, but F= 57 (-2) = -144 N, and that wasn't right either.

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You are making sign mistakes. For the second part write Fs+W=ma. Fs is always in the up direction, so let's call that the + direction. The weight acts down so I should put that in with a minus sign, ditto acceleration is down, so put that in with a minus sign. Fs-558.6N=(57kg)*(-2)m/s^2. Now what do you get? What happens in part three?
 
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I'm confused about part three. They give me an acceleration(-2.0 m/s^2) and I have the mass (57 kg), but how do I tie in the velocity(10m/s)?
 
The elevators downward speed is DECREASING. This means its acceleration is actually UPWARDS at 2m/sec^2. You do the same thing with the 10m/sec that you did in part one. The current speed doesn't have anything to do with the current acceleration.
 

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