Elevator Problem: Determining Scale Reading for a Moving Object

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The problem involves a 100kg man standing on a scale in a downward-moving elevator that is decelerating at 2 m/s². Participants are discussing how this affects the scale reading and the underlying physics concepts involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the relationship between the elevator's motion and the scale reading, questioning whether the reading should increase or decrease as the elevator decelerates. There are discussions about the appropriate equations to use, with some suggesting different formulations for the normal force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the effects of deceleration on the scale reading. Some participants have provided calculations and are seeking validation of their reasoning, while others are prompting further exploration of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on understanding the effects of acceleration and deceleration on apparent weight, with participants questioning the assumptions made in their calculations and interpretations of the scenario.

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Homework Statement


A 100kg man stands on a scale in an elevator moving downward. If the elevator decelerates at ##2 m/s^2##, determine the scale reading (in kg).

Homework Equations


##N = -WT = -Mg##

The Attempt at a Solution


##-WT = -100(g)##
##-WT = -100(-10)##
##-WT = 1000##

##Ma = 100(-2)##
##Ma = -200##

##N = -WT + Ma##
##N = 1000 - 200##
##N = 800##

##kg = N/g##
##kg = 800/10##
##kg = 80##

Could any of us please check if this seems correct? Would there be any other possible ways of achieving the answer?
 
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If the elevator is moving downwards and decelerating (getting slower), do you expect the scale reading to increase or decrease?
 
mfb said:
If the elevator is moving downwards and decelerating (getting slower), do you expect the scale reading to increase or decrease?

I would expect the scale reading to decrease.

Would ##N = Mg - Ma## be a better formula to use, therefore?

##Mg = 100(10) = 1000##
##N = 1000 - 200 = 800##
##N/g = 800/10 = 80##
 
Masrat_A said:
I would expect the scale reading to decrease.
Jump up. When you land back on Earth and slow down from the fall, do you legs have to work harder or less hard?
 
mfb said:
Jump up. When you land back on Earth and slow down from the fall, do you legs have to work harder or less hard?

The legs will have to work harder when we land back on Earth.
 
Right. Correspondingly, a scale would read more.
 

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