How Do You Calculate Friction Forces for a Car on a Flat Surface?

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To calculate the friction forces for a car on a flat surface, the car's weight and the applied forces are essential. A 1326 kg car requires 160N to overcome static friction and start moving, while only 120N is needed to maintain motion, indicating the difference between static and dynamic friction. The friction force can be determined using the normal force and the coefficient of friction, which is a ratio. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding whether to calculate friction forces or coefficients of friction. The user also notes a lack of information on the kinetic coefficient necessary for these calculations.
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Homework Statement


A 1326kg car lies on a flat surface. To make it move very slowly (a~0), one needs a force of 160N parallel to the surface. To stop it, the force must be reduced to 120N.

Homework Equations


Calculate the friction forces of the car

On Tuesday I have an exam regarding this and related topics. I missed some classes due to sickness and now I am a little lost.

Thanks in advance!
 
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According Newton's 2nd law,

Fnet=ma

Fnet==F1+F2+F3+ ...Fn

Forces are vectors, so they have magnitude and direction.
If you take vector force pointing to the right is positive(vector as an arrow) , then vectors pointing to the left as negative.
As for the friction, the direction is always opposite of the motion of the object.
The value can be calculated by multiplying the Normal force to the kinetic coefficient μ.
 
If I have understood correctly, the problem statement is telling you that to overcome the static friction you need to apply 160N. However once it's moving you only need to apply >120N to keep it moving. (eg this is a problem about static and dynamic friction).

However is the question really asking you to calculate the "friction forces" or the "coefficients of friction" ?

If the latter, look at the wikipedia entry for coefficient of friction. Hint: It's a ratio.

Sorry but I might not be able to return to this thread later.
 
CWatters said:
If I have understood correctly, the problem statement is telling you that to overcome the static friction you need to apply 160N. However once it's moving you only need to apply >120N to keep it moving. (eg this is a problem about static and dynamic friction).

However is the question really asking you to calculate the "friction forces" or the "coefficients of friction" ?

If the latter, look at the wikipedia entry for coefficient of friction. Hint: It's a ratio.

Sorry but I might not be able to return to this thread later.

Yes, I meant the coefficient.

And also, the stop the car, you reduce the applied force to 120N

azizlwl said:
According Newton's 2nd law,

Fnet=ma

Fnet==F1+F2+F3+ ...Fn

Forces are vectors, so they have magnitude and direction.
If you take vector force pointing to the right is positive(vector as an arrow) , then vectors pointing to the left as negative.
As for the friction, the direction is always opposite of the motion of the object.
The value can be calculated by multiplying the Normal force to the kinetic coefficient μ.

I don't have the kinetic coefficient
 
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