How Is Heat Generated from Friction in Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around the generation of heat from friction in a physics problem involving a metal block being dragged on a rough surface. The original poster presents a scenario with specific parameters, including mass, speed, and the coefficient of kinetic friction, and seeks to understand the rate of heat generation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between power, force, and velocity in the context of heat generation. The original poster attempts to relate heat generation to kinetic energy loss and questions the validity of their approach. Others suggest considering the pulling force and frictional force in terms of power.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing clarifications on the relationship between power and the forces involved. The original poster expresses confusion about their approach, and others offer insights into the assumptions made regarding energy loss over time.

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The discussion highlights the need for a clear understanding of the definitions of power and energy loss in the context of friction, as well as the implications of constant speed on the forces acting on the block.

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Homework Statement


A metal block of mass 10 kg is dragged on a rough horizontal surface with a constant speed of 5 m/s. If the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the road is 0.4, then the rate of generation of heat is. take g=10 m/s^2?

Homework Equations


F=ma
Frictional force=μN

The Attempt at a Solution


So I thought, the heat generated is the lost kinetic energy per second (if we stop applying the force), so I calculated the time it takes for the block to reach 0 velocity, the retardation is (0.4 x 100)/10 from v=u+at I got time=5/4 seconds. the rate should be total KE/time but this is incorrect, can someone give an intuitive explanation on how to solve this? Thank you
 
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Rate of heat generation is really power. Can you relate power and force and velocity?
 
kuruman said:
Rate of heat generation is really power. Can you relate power and force and velocity?
Power is Force x velocity. Is this the energy we're constantly providing to keep it moving at 5 m/s?
 
If you use the pulling force in the expression, it is the power generated by that force. If you use the force of friction, it is the power lost to friction.
 
kuruman said:
If you use the pulling force in the expression, it is the power generated by that force. If you use the force of friction, it is the power lost to friction.
Ok, I understand this. Why is my approach wrong though?
 
Krushnaraj Pandya said:
Ok, I understand this. Why is my approach wrong though?
It is wrong because when you say that P = KE/t, you are assuming that in equal times you are losing equal amounts of energy. That is, you are assuming that from t = 0 to t = 1 s you are losing the same amount of KE as from t = 1 s to t = 2 s. This is not the case when the block loses kinetic energy until it stops. The correct expression for the power loss is ##P=\frac{d(KE)}{dt}=\frac{d}{dt}\left( \frac{1}{2}mv^2 \right)=m v \frac{dv}{dt}=mav = F_{net}v.##
 
kuruman said:
It is wrong because when you say that P = KE/t, you are assuming that in equal times you are losing equal amounts of energy. That is, you are assuming that from t = 0 to t = 1 s you are losing the same amount of KE as from t = 1 s to t = 2 s. This is not the case when the block loses kinetic energy until it stops. The correct expression for the power loss is ##P=\frac{d(KE)}{dt}=\frac{d}{dt}\left( \frac{1}{2}mv^2 \right)=m v \frac{dv}{dt}=mav = F_{net}v.##
Ah, ok! Thank you very much
 

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