Calculating Gravitational Force Between Earth and Moon

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net gravitational force between the Earth and the Moon on a spaceship located halfway between them. The problem involves applying the law of universal gravitation and considering the masses of the Earth and Moon, as well as the distance between them.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the gravitational forces exerted by both the Earth and the Moon on the spaceship, questioning the correctness of their calculations and the assumptions regarding distances used in the formula.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the forces and are seeking clarification on their methods. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the gravitational formula, with participants questioning the assumptions about distances and the need to account for the radii of the Earth and Moon.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of converting distances from kilometers to meters and considering the center of mass in their calculations. There is also mention of discrepancies between calculated values and expected results, leading to further investigation of potential errors.

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Homework Statement


The average distance separating Earth and the moon is 384000km. What is the net gravitational force exerted by Earth and the moon on a 3.00 x 10^4kg spaceship located halfway between them.


Homework Equations


F=Gm1m2/r^2

G = 6.673x10^-11
earth mass = 5.98x10^24
moon mass = 7.36x10^22


The Attempt at a Solution



I found the force exerted by the Earth on the spaceship and then the force exerted by the moon on the spaceship. Did I do that right?

Please help, this is one of my non-favorite topics.

thanks!
 
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mizzy said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the force exerted by the Earth on the spaceship and then the force exerted by the moon on the spaceship. Did I do that right?

Yes that is what you had to do. Those two forces act in opposite directions, so the net force is?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Yes that is what you had to do. Those two forces act in opposite directions, so the net force is?

I didn't get the right answer. :confused:

For the force exerted by Earth I got 6.24x10^10 using half the distance between Earth and moon as r. For the force exerted by the moon I got 7.67x10^8.

The answer is 321N toward Earth.
 
The "r" in the law of universal gravitation is from the center of mass. Meaning, you have to consider the radius of the Earth and the radius of the moon. (if they have not already done so).
edit: don't forget to convert km -> m
 
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that force is also pretty large o_o
might want to try again.
Force of gravity decreases with distance and you're in space!
meaning.. your "force by earth" should be less than Ma(earth) and your "force by moon" should be less than "Ma(moon)"

I haven't actually done the calculation- I'm just letting you know simple checks you can do on the way-
 
Ush said:
that force is also pretty large o_o
might want to try again.
Force of gravity decreases with distance and you're in space!
meaning.. your "force by earth" should be less than Ma(earth) and your "force by moon" should be less than "Ma(moon)"

I haven't actually done the calculation- I'm just letting you know simple checks you can do on the way-

k. I did the calculation over. Since the spaceship is between Earth and moon, for r, I took the radius of the planet and added half the distance between Earth and the moon. is that right?

If so, i still didn't get the answer. But I did get a smaller number. For Earth i got 305N and for moon I got 3.92N.

Please help me find my mistake. Thanks.
 
type what you're doing here
 
Ush said:
type what you're doing here

Distance between Earth and moon = 384000km/2 = 192000 --> 1.92x10^8m

Earth:
F = Gm1m2/r^2

= (6.673x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)(3.00x10^4)/ 3.93x10^16
= 305N

where, r is equal to the radius of the Earth plus the distance from Earth to the spaceship.

Moon:
F = Gm1m2/r^2

= (6.673x10^-11)(7.36x10^22)(3.00x10^4)/ 3.75x10^16
= 3.93N

where, r is equal to the radius of the moon plus the distance from moon to the spaceship.


Can you please tell me where I went wrong?

THANKS.
 
your answer looks correct.
final answer: Fnet = 305 - 3.93 = 301.07N [toward earth]
I'm not sure why your book says it's wrong.
=/
 
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Ush said:
your answer looks correct.
final answer: Fnet = 305 - 3.93 = 301.07N [toward earth]
I'm not sure why your book says it's wrong.
=/

The answer is 321N toward the earth.
 

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