Calculating Gravitational Potential

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The discussion revolves around calculating gravitational potential at a specific point (point Z) located between a planet and its moon. The original poster presents the problem involving the gravitational potential due to the planet and questions the relevance of the moon's gravitational influence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of gravitational potential using the formula V = - G M / r. The original poster questions whether the gravitational influence of the moon can be ignored and considers calculating the potential for both celestial bodies.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the contributions of both the planet and the moon to the gravitational potential at point Z. There is acknowledgment of the need to add the potentials from both sources, and some participants express confidence in the approach taken.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes uncertainty about the significance of the gravitational field strength being zero at point Z and how that affects the calculations. There is also a reiteration of the importance of considering both the planet and the moon in the calculations.

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Homework Statement

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"Calculate gravitational potential at point Z, which is 8.10 x 107m away from a planet of mass 1.08 x 1023. "

(This point is between the planet and a moon, where the gravitational field strength is zero. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. The moon's mass is 4.8 x 1022 and point Z is 5.4 x 107m away from it.).

Homework Equations


V = - G M / r

The Attempt at a Solution


V = - (6.67 x 10^-11) x (1.08 x 10^23) / (8.1 x 10^7)
Therefore
V = - 8.89 x 10^4 J/kg

Is this correct?

Many thanks in advance.

- Talli
 
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TalliThePrune said:

Homework Statement

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"Calculate gravitational potential at point Z, which is 8.10 x 107m away from a planet of mass 1.08 x 1023. "

(This point is between the planet and a moon, where the gravitational field strength is zero. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. The moon's mass is 4.8 x 1022 and point Z is 5.4 x 107m away from it.).

Homework Equations


V = - G M / r

The Attempt at a Solution


V = - (6.67 x 10^-11) x (1.08 x 10^23) / (8.1 x 10^7)
Therefore
V = - 8.89 x 10^4 J/kg

Is this correct?

Many thanks in advance.

- Talli

Why can you ignore the gravity of the moon?
 
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PeroK said:
Why can you ignore the gravity of the moon?

Whoops! Sorry moon. Does this mean I calculate V for both the planet and the moon, and add the two?

So for the moon...
V = - (6.67 x 1011) x (4.8 x 1022) / (5.4 x 107)
V = - 5.93 x 104
 
Yes. It's good that you wanted to add them and not subtract them!
 
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PeroK said:
Yes. It's good that you wanted to add them and not subtract them!

Wonderful! I won't say I didn't consider it for a minute... But that would imply one field disappears with the presence of another, so no!

So VPlanet + Vmoon:
- 5.93 x 104 + - 8.89 x 107 = - 1.429 x 108

Thanks so much for your help. :smile:
 

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