Calculating Head Pan Angle with Accelerometer Measurements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenge of calculating head pan angles using a two-axis accelerometer mounted on a helmet. Participants explore the feasibility of using accelerometer measurements to determine head movement, particularly in the context of panning, while considering the effects of head tilt and roll.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the equations of motion to calculate distances in the x and y directions and then applying the inverse tangent to find the pan angle.
  • Another participant argues that accelerometers are dynamic measurement devices and may not effectively capture slow head movements due to their piezoelectric nature.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on whether a sensitive accelerometer could measure slow panning movements.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for small accelerations to be lost in system noise, suggesting that the effectiveness of the proposed method may be limited.
  • There is a suggestion that an inclinometer might not be suitable for measuring panning since it operates with respect to gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of accelerometers for measuring head panning, with some supporting the initial approach and others questioning its viability. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to achieve accurate measurements.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the dynamic nature of accelerometers, potential noise in measurements, and the challenges of measuring slow movements. There is also a dependence on the specific characteristics of the accelerometer used.

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Hi, please don't hesitate to reply to either of my paragraphs. Or ask for clarification. The first paragraph descibes the basic problem, and the second one is more indepth. I'd be happy if I could get just the first one working.

I'm working on a project were a two-axis accelerometer will be mounted to a helmet, and worn by a user. Currently I have the accelerometer mounted with both axes parallel to the earth. The problem I'm working on, is having the user pan their head(moving parallel to the earth), left or right, and calculating the angle. My approach is to calculate the distance in each direction(x and y), using d = d0 + V0*t + 1/2 * a * t^2, and then take the inverse tangent of these two results. Then store the new velocity, using v = v0 + a*t, for use in the next calculation. Does this sound like a good approach, or is there perhaps a better way to do it?

As it currently is, I can calculate the amount the user rolls or tilts their head, since the measured acceleration changes as the axes become more or less perpendicular/parallel to the earth. i.e. When the X-axis is perpendicular to the Earth it experiences +-1g of acceleration, when it is parallel it experiences 0g. So these values can be used directly. However this approach doesn't work for panning, since the movement is parallel to the earth. Ideally, I'd like to be able to calculate the amount the user pans their head even when their head is tilted and rolled. Any advice or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Accelerometers don't work like that. Accelerometers are dynamic measurement devices. If you were to move your head slowly, you would not pick up any acceleration. This is due to the piezoelectric nature of the accelerometers.

What you need is something like an iclinometer.
 
Thanks for your reply. Could you please explain a little more? If I have a very sensitive accelerometer wouldn't I be able to measure the acceleration even if they pan their head slowly?

Also, the inclinometer doesn't look like it'll work for the panning, since it measures with respect to gravity.
 
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Accelerometers are dynamic measurement devices. The piezoelectric elements create a charge when deformed. However, that charge is quickly dissipated due to voltage leakage. For eample, they are good for cyclic vibrations that induce sinusoidal accelerations (a vibrating piece of machinery), but they do not work under a continuous acceleration (like gravity).

Honestly, I think that the accelerations are going to be so small that your measured signal is going to get lost in the usual noise of a system. However, it's easy enough to set up. Give it a go.
 

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