Calculating Heat Transfer in a Water Bath with a Changing Volume and Temperature

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This discussion focuses on calculating heat transfer in a water bath system involving a cylinder with a piston, initially containing 10 kg of pure H2O at 273K. The key equations utilized include the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature, specifically dp/dT = L/(TΔV) and ΔQ = lδ, where l is the latent heat of fusion of ice. The calculated heat transfer to the bath is determined to be ΔQ = 3191.25 J, resulting from the conversion of approximately 9.58 × 10^{-3} kg of ice to water to achieve the required volume reduction of 2 × 10^{-5} m3.

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Homework Statement


A cylinder is fitted with a piston and is in thermal contact with a heat bath at 273K. Initially the volume in the cylinder is filled with 10kg of pure H2O and about half of this is liquid and the other half is solid. The piston is lowered so as to reduce the volume by 2 × 10−5 m3. What is the sign and magnitude of the heat transfer to the bath?

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The Attempt at a Solution


##\frac{dp}{dT}=\frac{L}{T\Delta V}##
##p_2-p_1= \frac{L}{\Delta V} ln{\frac{T_2}{T_1}}##
but ##T_1=T_2## hence ##p_1=p_2=constant##
##dQ=dU+pdV=C_VdT+pdV=pdV##
##\Delta Q=p\Delta V##

I feel this is probably all wrong, but i can't see how else to do it- any help would be very much appreciated.
 
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What are the densities of ice and water at 273K? How much ice must be converted to water, or vice versa, to reduce the total volume by 2 x 10-5 m3?
 
mjc123 said:
What are the densities of ice and water at 273K? How much ice must be converted to water, or vice versa, to reduce the total volume by 2 x 10-5 m3?

##V=\frac{M}{\rho}##
##\Delta V= \delta \big{(} \frac{1}{\rho_l} + \frac{1}{\rho_s} \big{)}##
where ##\delta## is the mass that is converted from solid to liquid.
## \delta= 9.58 \times 10^{-3}##

Can we then use ##lM=T\Delta S = \Delta Q##
##\Delta Q = l \delta = 3191.25 J## ?

where l is the specific latent heat of fusion of ice
 
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Physgeek64 said:
ΔV=δ(1ρl+1ρs)ΔV=δ(1ρl+1ρs)\Delta V= \delta \big{(} \frac{1}{\rho_l} + \frac{1}{\rho_s} \big{)}
(Why does it always look wrong in quotes?)
Why the plus sign? You want the difference in volume between liquid and solid.
 
mjc123 said:
(Why does it always look wrong in quotes?)
Why the plus sign? You want the difference in volume between liquid and solid.
Ahh yes! So with the minus sign, does this look right?

Thanks
 
mjc123 said:
(Why does it always look wrong in quotes?)
Selecting text to quote appears to translate away from the underlying LaTeX. To get it to display properly, you have to use the Reply "button" on the lower right-hand side of the post. That will quote the entire post, but you can trim it down if you just want to quote a part.
 
Physgeek64 said:
Ahh yes! So with the minus sign, does this look right?
Should be. Be careful with the sign of Q.
 

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