Calculating Helium Balloon Buoyancy Force at Launch and 2km Altitude

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the buoyancy force of a helium balloon at launch and at an altitude of 2km. The problem involves understanding the physics of buoyancy, gas laws, and the behavior of gases under varying conditions, specifically in a cold environment like Antarctica.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculations for volume, mass of helium, and buoyancy force at different altitudes. There are questions about the appropriate temperature to use in calculations and the assumptions regarding the density of air and helium.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on recalculating the mass of air displaced and have pointed out the need to reconsider the assumption that density remains constant with altitude. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these assumptions on the buoyancy calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of clearly defining the conditions under which calculations are made, such as temperature and pressure at different altitudes. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the relationship between the mass of helium and the mass of air displaced.

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Homework Statement


A helium meteorological balloon is made of a bag of impervious fabric that does not stretch, and when fully inflated forms a spherical shell of 1m diameter enclosing the He. At launch it is filled with He (at STP) to 15% capacity. The launch takes place in the Antarctic, in winter, at a temperature of 220K, so it is reasonable to assume that the temperature does not vary much with height. Note all assumptions and approximations made.

a)What volume does the balloon occupy at launch at sea level?
b)What mass of He is in the balloon?
c)What is the mass of air displaced by the balloon at sea level?
d)Estimate the buoyancy force at launch.
e)After launch the balloon rises. Estimate the buoyancy force when it has reached an altitude of 2km.

Homework Equations


PV = nRT
n=m/M
V=4/3\pir3

The Attempt at a Solution


a)V=4/3\pi x 0.53 x 0.15 = 0.0785m3

b)No densities were given.

PV = nRT. Therefore n = PV/RT.
P = 1.013x105Pa (given from formula sheet)
T = 273K <-- Should this be 220K?
V = 0.0785m3
M = 4 atomic mass units (given)

Therefore n = 3.504mol
m=nM = 3.504 x 4 =14.01g

c) Mass displaced = mass of Helium = 14.01g.

d)
m = 14.01/1000 = 0.014kg
Buoyancy force = weight of volume displaced = mg = 0.137N

e)From a) and b), density = m/V = 0.014/0.0785 = 0.178kg/m3
At 2km, P=75100Pa (given). n, R and T remain constant.
V = nRT/P = (3.504 x 8.314 x 220)/75100 = 0.0853m3

Assuming density remains constant as altitude changes,
m=density/Volume = 0.178/0.0853 = 0.0152kg.

Buoyance force = 0.0152 x 9.8 = 0.149N

Basically, I'm just not sure if this is correct and want someone to check if my working out is all right :) The part I'm most unsure of is part e) and the fact that the buoyancy forces are so small!.
 
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JWSiow said:
b) ... T = 273K <-- Should this be 220K?
Yes, it should be 220K.
JWSiow said:
c) Mass displaced = mass of Helium = 14.01g.
Mass displaced = mass of air, not helium.
JWSiow said:
...Assuming density remains constant as altitude changes...
Nope. Density will change. You've already got the new volume. Just use the method from parts (b), (c), and (d) to recalculate the buoyant force.
 
But, I used the number of moles found in part b) to calculate the new volume, which means if I used the new volume to calculate the mass using the same method, I'd get the same mass, and the buoyancy force would stay constant...
 
You are right. I got the masses mixed up in my mind when I was responding to your question. :blushing:

You can assume the density of the air doesn't change (the density of the helium does, but that doesn't matter to the question). Given the volume, recalculate the mass and weight of air displaced by the balloon.
 

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