Calculating impact parameter

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The original poster is attempting to plot the trajectory of a photon near a Schwarzschild black hole and is seeking to understand how to calculate the impact parameter relevant to this scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the impact parameter and its relation to the trajectory of a photon. There are questions about the relevance of provided equations and whether they are sufficient for plotting the trajectory.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered links to resources that may assist with understanding the impact parameter and plotting trajectories. The discussion reflects a mix of curiosity and uncertainty regarding the mathematical concepts involved.

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The original poster notes a lack of formal physics training, which may influence their approach to the problem. There is also mention of a specific equation that the original poster is considering for their attempts.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to plot the trajectory of a photon near a schwarzschild black hole. I have the equation for the trajectory but I'm stumped by the impact parameter and cannot find out how to calculate it.

Homework Equations



\frac{d\phi}{dr} = \pm \frac{b}{r^{2}\sqrt{1 - \frac{b^{2}}{r^{2}} (1 - \frac{r_{s}}{r}})}

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Hi nocks! Welcome to PF! :wink:

From the PF Library on photon sphere …​

The usual Schwarzschild coordinates, are related to the "age", \tau, of a photon (measured as number of wavelengths, since of course the "proper time" of a photon does not change) by the equations:
\frac{dt}{d\tau}\ =\ E/(1\ -\ 2M/r)
\frac{d\phi}{d\tau}\ =\ L/r^2
\frac{dr}{d\tau}\ =\ \pm E\sqrt{1\ -\ (1\ -\ 2M/r)L^2/E^2r^2}

Does that help? :smile:
 
Thanks for the link but there's no mention of the impact parameter
 
nocks said:
Thanks for the link but there's no mention of the impact parameter

(just got up :zzz: …)

Well, if you mean the "sideways distance at infinity", that'll be limr->∞ r sin(φ - φ),

which is … ? :smile:
 
Oh so the impact parameter is the distance parallel to the centre of the black hole at approach from infinty?
Now to attempt plotting the trajectory. Is the equation I mentioned above enough for this? (i should mention I am not a physicist)
 
You're not a physicist? Then whyever are you doing this?

You may find some assistance at http://Albert51.tripod.com/non.html" , including some plots of trajectories for different impact parameters. :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
You're not a physicist? Then whyever are you doing this?

Just an interest of mine. It's taking a while to get my head around the maths but I guess I'm slowly getting there.
 

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