Calculating Impulse on a Baseball Colliding with a Bat: Magnitude and Duration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the impulse experienced by a baseball during a collision with a bat. The baseball's mass is given, along with its velocities before and after the collision, and the duration of the collision is specified. Participants are exploring the implications of these values on the impulse calculation.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the initial and final momentum of the baseball and are questioning the accuracy of their calculations, particularly regarding the velocity values used. They are also discussing the role of the collision duration in the impulse calculation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with some participants questioning the correctness of their momentum components and the impact of the collision duration on the impulse. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of vector directions in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the final values.

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A 0.300 kg baseball just before and after it collides with a bat. Just before, the ball has a velocity v1 of magnitude 12.0 m/s and angle θ1 = 35°. Just after, it is traveling directly upward with velocity v2 of magnitude 10.0 m/s. The duration of the collision is 1.5 ms.
(a) What is the magnitude of the impulse on the ball from the bat?

I tried solving a by

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(12)j = 3.6j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.66j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.66²) = 6.38

what am i doing wrong?
 

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noname1 said:
A 0.300 kg baseball just before and after it collides with a bat. Just before, the ball has a velocity v1 of magnitude 12.0 m/s and angle θ1 = 35°. Just after, it is traveling directly upward with velocity v2 of magnitude 10.0 m/s. The duration of the collision is 1.5 ms.
(a) What is the magnitude of the impulse on the ball from the bat?

I tried solving a by

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(12)j = 3.6j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.66j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.66²) = 6.38

what am i doing wrong?

Would the delta-time be part of the relevant equations...?
 
pf should be 10 and not 12 right? shoot, how could i miss that, just want to be sure because i just have one more attempt

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86correct?
 
noname1 said:
pf should be 10 and not 12 right? shoot, how could i miss that, just want to be sure because i just have one more attempt

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86


correct?

You didn't answer my question. Where should the 1.5ms enter into your calculation of the impulse?
 
i don't think it shouldn't enter because

p = mass vs velocity

pf = 0.3 x 10 = 3j
pi = .3 x 12(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

right?
 
noname1 said:
i don't think it shouldn't enter because

p = mass vs velocity

pf = 0.3 x 10 = 3j
pi = .3 x 12(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

right?

My apologies. I was misremembering the definition of Impulse.

It looks like you just have a sign error in the y component of the incoming ball's momentum:

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

The diagram in your original post (OP) shows the ball coming in at a downward angle.
 
yes you are correct but anyways its not going to affect the answer since we take the absolute value of it, but something and i think this is correct

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86but just want to verify since its my last attempt to the question
 
noname1 said:
yes you are correct but anyways its not going to affect the answer since we take the absolute value of it, but something and i think this is correct

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86


but just want to verify since its my last attempt to the question

You do not take any absolute values or do sqrt(squares) magnitude calculation until after you have subtracted the vectors. So the direction of the y component of the incoming baseball (negative) is important, since the final direction is upward (positive).
 

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