Calculating the magnitude of an impulse

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The problem involves calculating the magnitude and direction of the impulse delivered to a soccer ball after it bounces off a player's head, with specific initial and final velocities provided. The context is within the subject area of dynamics and impulse-momentum principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the direction of the impulse by considering the change in velocities in both x and y components. Some participants question the appropriateness of using just the change in velocities for calculating the impulse's direction and magnitude.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the validity of the approach taken by the original poster, with some providing clarification on the correct method for calculating impulse using component form. There is acknowledgment of the potential pitfalls in oversimplifying the calculation process.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the time duration for which the ball is in contact with the player's head, which may influence the understanding of impulse in this context. The discussion also hints at the importance of using the impulse-momentum equation correctly to avoid errors in future problems.

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Homework Statement


Aplayer bounces a 0.43-kg soccer ball off her head, changing
the velocity of the ball from
Vi = (8.8 m/s)x + (-2.3 m/s)y
to
Vf = (5.2 m/s)xN + (3.7 m/s)y
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. If the ball is in contact with the
player’s head for 6.7 ms, what are (a) the direction and (b) the
magnitude of the impulse delivered to the ball?

Will I be wrong if I use just change in velocities(ie excluding) in x-comp and y-comp to calculate direction of the impulse.

I did calculation which gave me theta of -59.03, and when using coordinates the theta falls in second quadrant.

Homework Equations


1. delta P(x comp)= Pf(x)-Pi(x)= -1.548
2. delta P(y comp)=Pf(y)-Pi(y)=2.58

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the solutions I calculated magnitude of impulse as 3.03 kg.m/s
 
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That looks about right.
 
So is using just velocities o calculate magnitude acceptable
 
Nkele said:
So is using just velocities o calculate magnitude acceptable
If I understand correctly, you used the equation for the impulse, ##\vec J=m\Delta \vec v## to find the impulse in component form and obtained the magnitude using the Pythagorean theorem. Then you found the angle using the expression ##\theta = \arctan(J_y/J_x)##. That's how you should think of it and it is the correct method. Simplifying it to "using just velocities" is dangerous and could cause trouble next time you encounter something like this.
 
Ok, thank you very much for clarification
 

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