Calculating Initial Speed in an Inelastic Collision with Friction

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The problem involves an inelastic collision between a moving car and a parked car, where both vehicles become entangled and slide to a stop due to friction. The scenario includes specific masses for both cars and a distance they slide before stopping, along with a coefficient of friction.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the collision and the conservation of momentum, with some questioning how to incorporate friction into their calculations. There are attempts to clarify the steps needed to find the speed of the cars immediately after the collision and the role of friction in the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on breaking the problem into parts and emphasizing the importance of momentum conservation in inelastic collisions. Others express confusion about the concepts and seek additional resources or examples for better understanding.

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Some participants note the challenge of understanding the problem and the lack of clear examples or tutorials to reference. There is an emphasis on the need to work backwards from the given information to find the initial speed.

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Homework Statement


A drunk driver strikes a parked car. During the collision the cars become entangled and slide to a stop together. The drunk driver's car has a total mass of 742 kg, and the parked car has a total mass of 776 kg. If the cars slide 18 m before coming to rest, how fast was the drunk driver going? The coefficient of sliding friction between the tires and the road is 0.59.


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Not any idea really? Just that I think its inelastic... and that I can't use the equation v1`=m1-m2/m1+m2 V1 to get the answer... How do I incorporate the friction?
 
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Yes, it's a completely inelastic collision. (What's conserved during the collision?) Treat the problem in two parts: (1) the collision (What's the speed of the two cars immediately after the collision?) (2) the slowing down due to friction.

Work backwards from the given information.
 
Energy is conserved, but I don't know how to find the speed of the two cars after the collision :/
 
Energy is not conserved (that's what inelastic means). Work backwards. Hint: What's the force of friction that slows the cars? The acceleration? The speed just after the collision?
 
I am sorry but, I don't understand this problem at all... Can you redirect me to an example problem or a tutorial?
 
Go through your text. You should find there that during inelastic collision, only thing that remains conserved is linear momentum. (Here, we are not concerned with rotaion and all.)
So assume initial speed to be 'v' and conserve momentum, to get speed of the two cars, just after the collision. (Note, after collision the two cars stick -- entangle -- to each other.) After obtaining this speed, you can apply work-energy theorem to know the work done by the friction. And, assuming uniform friction, you can get the distance required to stop the cars. Equate it with the given data (18m) to get initial speed 'v'.
 

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