Calculating Initial Velocity of Projectile Motion Without Time Information

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on calculating the initial velocity of a projectile launched at a 45-degree angle from a height of 1 meter, landing 2.5 meters away at a height of 0 meters. Participants confirm that the initial velocity can be calculated without time using the equation V^2 = V0^2 + 2a(Δr). A second scenario involves a massless ball bouncing before landing, with discussions on the implications of elastic collisions and the need to determine the bounce point to solve for initial velocity. The conversation highlights the complexities of projectile motion, including the need to consider vertical and horizontal components of velocity and the effects of height changes during the projectile's trajectory. The thread concludes with participants attempting to reconcile their calculations and assumptions regarding the projectile's motion and energy conservation.
  • #31
Your formula for y is wrong. It should be
yf = yi + vt - 1/2*g*t^2.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #32
rl.bhat said:
Your formula for y is wrong. It should be
yf = yi + vt - 1/2*g*t^2.

I let g=-9.8m/s^2 in my calculations.
 
  • #33
In the equation what is the value of yi?
After the bounce it should be zero. Take it zero and calculated the time.
 
  • #34
physicskid69 said:
I now use that velocity with yf=yi+vt+1/2gt^2 to solve for t where yf=0.1m and yi=0m. This gives me t=0.881s.

Isn't that what I already did?
 
  • #35
Yes. I didn't notice.
0.1 = 4.43*t - 4.9*t^2
Or 4.9*t^2 - 4.43*t + 0.1 = 0
When I solved it I got different answer. Check it.
 
  • #36
rl.bhat said:
Yes. I didn't notice.
0.1 = 4.43*t - 4.9*t^2
Or 4.9*t^2 - 4.43*t + 0.1 = 0
When I solved it I got different answer. Check it.

I get t=0.023s or t=0.881s and since I want the time for when the ball is coming back down I use t=0.881s I believe.
 
  • #37
OK.Then your answer is correct.
 
  • #38
Okay, thank you to everyone that helped out with this.
 
  • #39
Wait a minute. There is one flaw in your solution.
According to you the total time of flight is 1.333 s.
During that time the vertical displacement is 8.7 m!
How is that? .
 
  • #40
That's assuming the ball is falling the entire time and not considering the bounce.
 
  • #41
You have taken two time intervals to calculate the time of flight, taking into account the bounce.
But the vertical space in only 1m!
 
  • #42
rl.bhat said:
You have taken two time intervals to calculate the time of flight, taking into account the bounce.
But the vertical space in only 1m!

Yes I know, the ball falls 1m then bounces back up 1m and finally lands after traveling another 0.9m. This takes a total time of 1.333s.
 
  • #43
OK. Then it is alright.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
815
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
40
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
26K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K