Calculating Initial Velocity of Water After Nozzle Increase

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The discussion revolves around understanding the increase in velocity of water as it flows through a nozzle, specifically questioning how it is determined that the velocity increases by a factor of 6. Participants note the lack of initial velocity data and seek clarification on the calculations involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the diameters of the hose and the nozzle, questioning how these ratios affect the velocity. They reference calculations from an example problem to derive flow rates and velocities.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations involving the flow rate and the relationship between the cross-sectional areas of the hose and nozzle. There is an ongoing exploration of the exact factor by which the velocity increases, with some suggesting it may be 6.25 rather than 6.

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Participants are working with given diameters of the hose and nozzle, and the time taken to fill a bucket, but express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding the velocity increase.

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Homework Statement


how to know that the nozzle increases the velocity of water by 6 times? it's not given ... and no data for initial velocty given

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goldfish9776 said:

Homework Statement


how to know that the nozzle increases the velocity of water by 6 times? it's not given ... and no data for initial velocty given

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

Did you look at the start of the problem calculations given in Example 5-1 at the bottom of the first image?

That's the one where the hose is being used to fill a bucket of a certain size in a certain amount of time. You can work out the velocity of the flow from the information given in the example. The second image just sums up the calculations from the first image.
 
SteamKing said:
Did you look at the start of the problem calculations given in Example 5-1 at the bottom of the first image?

That's the one where the hose is being used to fill a bucket of a certain size in a certain amount of time. You can work out the velocity of the flow from the information given in the example. The second image just sums up the calculations from the first image.
yes, but i still can't understand the velocity increases by 6 times...
 
goldfish9776 said:
yes, but i still can't understand the velocity increases by 6 times...
What is the ratio between the hose diameter and the nozzle diameter?
What is the ratio of their cross-sectional areas?
Since the volume flow rate must be the same for both, what does that tell you about the ratio of the linear speeds?
 
goldfish9776 said:
yes, but i still can't understand the velocity increases by 6 times...
You've got a nozzle on the end of the hose. The water flowing through the hose is incompressible, so whatever amount goes in one end of the hose must come out the other end, in the same amount of time. You are also given the diameter of the hose and the diameter of the exit of the nozzle.

The flow rate through the hose Q = Area of the hose × velocity of the water. Since Qin = Qout and you can calculate Ain and Aout for the hose given the indicated sizes, then the only thing which remains is to calculate Vin and Vout. You are told how long it takes to fill a bucket with a certain volume of water, and this gives you Qin.
 
haruspex said:
What is the ratio between the hose diameter and the nozzle diameter?
What is the ratio of their cross-sectional areas?
Since the volume flow rate must be the same for both, what does that tell you about the ratio of the linear speeds?
2 /0.8 = 2.5
1 / (0.4^2) = 6.25
so , the ans is It's 6.25 times , not 6 times?
 
goldfish9776 said:
2 /0.8 = 2.5
1 / (0.4^2) = 6.25
so , the ans is It's 6.25 times , not 6 times?
Yes. I don't think they intended the 6 to be exact.
 
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