Calculating Kinetic Energy of a Ball: Is it Possible?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the initial kinetic energy of a ball thrown into the air, given its mass and maximum height reached. The subject area is primarily physics, focusing on concepts of energy conservation and kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy, questioning the necessity of velocity for the calculation. Some suggest using conservation of energy principles to relate the energies at different points in the ball's motion.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into energy conservation, indicating that the potential energy at the maximum height is equal to the initial kinetic energy. There is ongoing clarification regarding the assumptions about initial velocity and the nature of energy transformations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the absence of time and velocity information in the problem statement, raising questions about how to derive the initial velocity from the given height. There is also a mention of the need to consider the reference frame for potential energy calculations.

NatalieWise123
Messages
14
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A ball with a mass of 2.3 kg is thrown into the air. If the ball rises to a maximum height of 15 m before stopping and coming back down, how much kinetic energy did the ball have initially?

Homework Equations


KE=0.5*mass*velocity^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't think it's possible because no velocity is given and you can't find it because there is no time given. Am I missing something?[/B]
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Why don't you just aply the conservation of the energy?

E_{i}=E_{f}
 
AhmirMalik said:
Why don't you just aply the conservation of the energy?

E_{i}=E_{f}

Can you explain further? I don't really understand.
 
The total energy of the system has to be conserved. That means, the total initial energy must be equal to the final total energy.

\frac{m(v_{i})^2}{2}+mgh_{i}=\frac{m(v_{f})^2}{2}+mgh_{f}

where \frac{m(v_{i})^2}{2} is what you are looking for.
 
Exactly as above. You have to remember that energy is conserved, so the potential energy gained by the ball being thrown up, is equal to the kinetic energy lost and vice versa. Essentially in this problem, your answer can be obtained using KE_i = PE_f Which is the same as what the person above did, but by taking the hand as the inial starting reference fram where PE=0, some terms fall out, leaving you with \frac{1}{2}mv_i^2 = mgh_f
 
FaraDazed said:
Exactly as above. You have to remember that energy is conserved, so the potential energy gained by the ball being thrown up, is equal to the kinetic energy lost and vice versa. Essentially in this problem, your answer can be obtained using KE_i = PE_f Which is the same as what the person above did, but by taking the hand as the inial starting reference fram where PE=0, some terms fall out, leaving you with \frac{1}{2}mv_i^2 = mgh_f

OK so I can do 2.3*9.8*15= 338.1 J which is final PE but since they're equal that is the answer for initial KE?
 
NatalieWise123 said:
OK so I can do 2.3*9.8*15= 338.1 J which is final PE but since they're equal that is the answer for initial KE?
Yes that answer is correct. It is more correct to say that that is the "potential energy gained" rather than "final potential energy" as it is technically a change in energy, but that's just semantics I guess. But yes, since energy is conserved it is equal to the kinetic energy you are looking for.
 
Can it be said that when components that contain a like kind of kinetic energy assemble together, the sum of that energy is shared between them? Abstractly it seems that this effect can be observed in every kind of cohesive bond within a physical transfer such as thermal transfer, pressure transfer and density transfers.
 
NatalieWise123 said:

Homework Statement


A ball with a mass of 2.3 kg is thrown into the air. If the ball rises to a maximum height of 15 m before stopping and coming back down, how much kinetic energy did the ball have initially?

Homework Equations


KE=0.5*mass*velocity^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't think it's possible because no velocity is given and you can't find it because there is no time given. Am I missing something?[/B]
Yes, you are. The ball doesn't simply jump out of your hand. It must be propelled upward with an initial velocity. Knowing how far up the ball travels allows one to calculate the initial velocity. Sometimes, not all the facts are presented in neat packages suitable for plugging and chugging.
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K