Calculating Kp for Gaseous Reaction: Stuck at Finding Total Moles

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equilibrium constant \( K_p \) for a gaseous reaction, focusing on determining the total number of moles involved in the reaction. Participants explore the relationship between moles of substances and reaction stoichiometry, as well as the use of ICE tables in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculation for total moles using the ideal gas law, but expresses uncertainty about the next steps in calculating \( K_p \).
  • Another participant suggests that the number of moles is related to reaction stoichiometry and mentions ICE tables as a useful tool.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant has resolved their confusion regarding the calculation of total moles and provides their updated approach to find \( x \) in the context of the reaction.

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The discussion shows some participants agreeing on the utility of ICE tables and stoichiometry, while others express confusion about the specific values needed for calculations. There is no consensus on the best approach to take initially, but later contributions indicate progress in understanding.

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Some participants mention specific values and variables without fully clarifying their definitions or the assumptions behind them, which may affect the calculations. The discussion does not resolve the overall approach to calculating \( K_p \) as participants are still navigating the problem.

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Homework Statement
##8,5*10^-2## moles of gaseous ##PCL_5## are inserted in a 0,50 L volume reactor. At 540 K, the equilibrium ##PCL_5 <->PCL_3+CL_2## , is achieved and the total pressure in the reactor is 11.10 atm. Calculate Kp at equilibrium at this temperature.
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I am stuck, i have compute the total moles as :
## n_{tot}=\frac{P_{tot*V}}{RT}##=0,125 mol

##Kp= \frac{P_{tot}\frac {n_{PCL_3}}{n_{tot}}*P_{tot}\frac {n_{CL_2}}{n_{tot}}}{P_{tot} \frac {n_{PCL_3}}{n_{tot}}}=\frac {P_{tot}}{n_{tot}}*\frac {n_{PCL_3}n_{CL_2}}{n_{PCL_5}}##

From here, can't go forward, am i missing something to consider?
 
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Hint: numbers of moles of substances present are related by the reaction stoichiometry.

Have you heard about ICE tables? They are a handy tool to deal with such problems.

It is Cl, not CL.
 
Borek said:
Hint: numbers of moles of substances present are related by the reaction stoichiometry.

Have you heard about ICE tables? They are a handy tool to deal with such problems.

It is Cl, not CL.
Yes I've done it: but i am not understanding how to get x, usually Kc or Kp or partial pressures, or molar fractions are given, but here ?
IC tble.jpg

sorry for posting a pic btu i did not know how to draw it here
 
ok now i got it, yesterday i was too tired to see it 😅. Basically what I do is.
##8,5*10^{-2}-x+x+x= 8,5*10^{-2}+x=n_{tot}##
so
## n_{tot}=\frac{P_{tot*V}}{RT}##=0,125mol

##8,5*10^{-2}+x=0,125mol##

##X=0,125-8,5*10^{-2}=0,04 mol##

now I just plug in Kp equation and done
 

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