Calculating Linear and Angular Motion in a Drum and Cable System

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The discussion revolves around a mechanical engineering problem involving a drum and cable system. Participants are tasked with calculating various parameters such as final linear and angular velocities, linear acceleration, tension force, and torque, given specific initial conditions and dimensions of the system.

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  • Participants explore the application of kinematic equations, with some expressing confusion about transitioning from a two-mass pulley system to a single mass scenario. Questions about the correctness of their calculations and formulas are raised.

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Some participants have provided hints and affirmations regarding the calculations presented, while others are seeking clarification on their understanding and approach. There is a recognition of the need for further exploration of assumptions and the implications of constant acceleration.

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One participant notes the absence of time to descend in their version of the problem, while another mentions a table of related values provided at the end of their assignment, which may influence the calculations. The discussion highlights the variability in problem setups across different students.

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Hi, I'm studying a hnc in mechanical engineering.
One of the maths problems I have been given involves a drum and cable. It states the diameter(0.8m), mass (3kg), initial velocity (0m/s), time to descend (0.5secs) and distance traveled (0.25m)

I need to find:
A)final linear velocity of the load
B) linear acceleration of the load
C) final angular velocity of the drum
D) angular acceleration of the drum
E) tension force of the cable
F) torque applied to the drum.

So far, I've got linear and normal velocity and acceleration wrapped around my head. I did a problem similar to this last year with a mass on either side of the pulley, but I'm struggling on how to change that to only having one mass to calculate.

Am I right in thinking V= u+at
V= 0+(2×0.5)
V=1m/s

A=2s/t(squared)- 2u/t
A= 2m/s (squared)?

Like I said, I'm just a little confused as to whether I'm using the correct formulas to find the basics before I start doing the rest of the question.

Thanks in advance for any guidance! :)
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Ebony said:
Am I right in thinking V= u+at
V= 0+(2×0.5)
V=1m/s

A=2s/t(squared)- 2u/t
A= 2m/s (squared)?
Looks fine.
 
Ebony said:
I did a problem similar to this last year with a mass on either side of the pulley, but I'm struggling on how to change that to only having one mass to calculate.

Hint. This problem is actually easier than last years due to the amount of information provided about how it moves.
 
Ebony said:
Hi, I'm studying a hnc in mechanical engineering.
One of the maths problems I have been given involves a drum and cable. It states the diameter(0.8m), mass (3kg), initial velocity (0m/s), time to descend (0.5secs) and distance traveled (0.25m)

I need to find:
A)final linear velocity of the load
B) linear acceleration of the load
C) final angular velocity of the drum
D) angular acceleration of the drum
E) tension force of the cable
F) torque applied to the drum.

So far, I've got linear and normal velocity and acceleration wrapped around my head. I did a problem similar to this last year with a mass on either side of the pulley, but I'm struggling on how to change that to only having one mass to calculate.

Am I right in thinking V= u+at
V= 0+(2×0.5)
V=1m/s

A=2s/t(squared)- 2u/t
A= 2m/s (squared)?

Like I said, I'm just a little confused as to whether I'm using the correct formulas to find the basics before I start doing the rest of the question.

Thanks in advance for any guidance! :) View attachment 232243
Hi ebony did you manage to complete this..I have the same question and don't know where to begin the response you are asking about I assume is the answer to part a and b...
 
Hi,

I am just wondering if somebody can help me with this question also. I have been given it, but the time to descend is unknown. I have the other values, with the distance travelled, mass, initial velocity of 0m/s, and the drum diameter. It says to assume constant acceleration, but I am unsure where to start.

Thank you in advance!
 
Hharl said:
Hi,

I am just wondering if somebody can help me with this question also. I have been given it, but the time to descend is unknown. I have the other values, with the distance travelled, mass, initial velocity of 0m/s, and the drum diameter. It says to assume constant acceleration, but I am unsure where to start.

Thank you in advance!
:welcome:

It might be best to start a new thread. In any case, you need to show us your own best attempt. See the homework guidelines:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/homework-help-guidelines-for-students-and-helpers.686781/
 
Hharl said:
Hi,

I am just wondering if somebody can help me with this question also. I have been given it, but the time to descend is unknown. I have the other values, with the distance travelled, mass, initial velocity of 0m/s, and the drum diameter. It says to assume constant acceleration, but I am unsure where to start.

Thank you in advance!
Hello, i had the same problem and it turns out at the end of the paper there is a table with related values in so have a look at the end of the paper and see if you have the same table.

i.e. My assignment says "A" secs and all I have is Mass, diameter of the drum and initial velocity.
The table at the end of the paper states value for a is 1.96.

My lecturer said the purpose of this was in previous years all students have been given different values to prevent them from copying each other directly. This year we all have the same values he just hasn't done away with the table.
 

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