Calculating Load Magnitude for Normal Stress in a Uniform Cross-Sectional Area

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the load magnitude for normal stress in a uniform cross-sectional area of a structural link, specifically link BD, given a stress value and cross-sectional area. Participants explore the relationship between stress, force, and area, while addressing the necessary calculations and assumptions involved in the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the formula σ = F/A to find the force, rearranging it to F = σ * A, leading to a calculated force of 40,000N or 40kN.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the diagram and the locations of points A, B, and D, indicating a need for better context.
  • A participant revises their calculations, noting the importance of converting units correctly, leading to confusion about whether the calculated force is correct.
  • One participant clarifies that MPa and mm² can be directly multiplied to yield force in Newtons, emphasizing that no unit conversion is necessary in this context.
  • Another participant discusses the thickness of link BD and questions whether it is the same for another link, while also addressing misunderstandings about cross-sectional area and normal stress definitions.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need to draw a free body diagram of link ABC and to apply statics and equilibrium equations to solve for the load P, suggesting that understanding the problem's requirements is crucial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit some agreement on the calculations related to stress and force, but there is disagreement regarding the understanding of cross-sectional area and the necessity of calculating areas for other links. The discussion remains unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of 'cross-sectional area' and 'normal stress', and there are unresolved questions about the relevance of link ABC's dimensions to the problem at hand.

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Knowing the portion of the link BD has a uniform cross-sectional area of 800mm^2, determine the magnitude of the load P for which the normal stress in that portion of BD is 50 Mpa. (Hint draw a free body diagram of the link ABC)

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sorry for the paint sketch I don't have a scanner, anyway I approached the problem as σ = F/A and we already have σ and A so I rearranged the problem as σ*A=F which came out to 40000N or 40Kn I'm not sure as to where to go from here or if I am going down the right track any help is appreciated thanks!
 
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Where is A, B, D?
 
sorry about that i updated the picture
 
ok i redid the math in order for mpa to be converted to force I would have to convert all the measurements to meters so now I get 40N. but I am still stuck I'm not sure if that's the force or do I have to calculate the cross sectional area of ABC if so how do I go about doing that?
 
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You will soon learn in this class, that MPA * mm^2 = N One is x10^6 and the other is x10^-6
 
alright I see that so MPA is N/mm^2 so I don't have to convert anything so it would be 40KN, 50MPa or 50N/mm^2 * 800mm^2 = 40,000N or 40KN, butI'm still stuck on the other link would it have the same thickness as link BD? link BD 800mm^2/510mm = 1.57mm? is it the same for the rest of the problem?
 
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positive infinity said:
alright I see that so MPA is N/mm^2 so I don't have to convert anything so it would be 40KN, 50MPa or 50N/mm^2 * 800mm^2 = 40,000N or 40KN, butI'm still stuck on the other link would it have the same thickness as link BD? link BD 800mm^2/510mm = 1.57mm? is it the same for the rest of the problem?
I don't believe you are correctly understanding the definition of 'cross sectional area' and 'normal stress'. The given 800mm^2 cross sectional area of BD is its thickness times its width, and its plane is perpendicular to the normal (axial) force in member BD. You seem to be trying to calculate the area of member ABC (which, by the way, is not needed in this problem) by assuming that the cross section area is width times length. This is incorrect. Once you understand this, your next step is to draw a free body diagram of link ABC, as was suggested in the problem statement. In so doing, you must identify the magnitude and direction of the member force BD acting on joint B, and use statics/equilibrium equations to solve for P.
 

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