Calculating Marble's Fall from a Table Height

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The problem involves a marble rolling off a table and hitting a barrier while falling. The marble is initially given a horizontal velocity and the height of the table is provided. The objective is to determine the height at which the marble strikes the barrier.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the time it takes for the marble to fall and the horizontal distance to the barrier. There are attempts to calculate the time of flight and the vertical displacement during that time. Some participants question the initial calculations and suggest focusing on the horizontal and vertical components separately.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the calculations, with some suggesting different approaches to determine the time and height at which the marble hits the barrier. There is an acknowledgment of the importance of separating horizontal and vertical motion, and the discussion appears to be progressing with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as stated, including the given height of the table and the horizontal velocity of the marble. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct interpretation of the problem's components.

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Homework Statement



A marble is accelerated to a horizontal velocity of 0.50 m/s by rolling it down a small ramp. The marble rolls off the table, which is 0.78 m high. As it falls, it hits a barrier on the way down. If the barrier is 0.15 m from the edge of the table, at what height from the ground, h, will the marble hit the barrier?

Homework Equations



d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)t/2

Vf =Vi + at

(Vf)2 = (Vi)2 + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution



I wasn't really sure how to start it, but first I found the time it would take for the marble to fall off the table:

Using vertical components:

d = (Vi)(t) + 1/2(a)(t)2
-0.78 = (0)(t) + (1/2)(-9.8)t2
-0.78 = -4.9t2
t = 0.40s

I don't know if that ^ is right, and I'm not really sure what I should do next. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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You know how far the barrier is from the edge of the table. If the marble is traveling 0.5 m/s horizontally when it leaves the edge, how long will it take the marble to cross the gap between the edge and the barrier? How far does the marble fall in this amount of time?
 
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That would be the time taken to hit the floor not the barrier.

Have a look at what information the problem gives you about the horizontal components.

(cross posted with steamking)
 
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I'll take downward as my positive direction. But first, I calculate the time it takes to reach the barrier: 0.15/0.5=0.3. Then my initial vertical velocity is zero, and the time of fall would be 0.3 s. I will take acceleration of free fall to be 9.81 m s^-2. Then displacement from top of the table = (initial velocity)(time of travel) + (0.5)(acceleration)(time)^2. That in symbols would be s=ut+0.5a(t^2). Then s = (0)(0.3)+(0.5)(9.81)(0.3^2). This comes out to be 0.44 m from the top of the table. Then height h would be 0.78-0.44 that would be 0.34. I hope that is right. =P
 
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Should let the OP work it out.
 
Oh. I didn't know it worked like that. Sorry. I'll take care now.
 
Thanks everyone! This problem definitely wasn't as difficult once I properly identified vertical and horizontal components.
 
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