Calculating Maximum Speed and Height of a Child on a Trampoline

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum speed and height of a child on a trampoline, given the elastic potential energy stored in the trampoline and the child's mass. The problem involves concepts from energy conservation, specifically kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate maximum speed and height using energy equations but expresses uncertainty about the meaning of the variables and the relationships between different types of energy.
  • Some participants question the accuracy of the height calculation and suggest clarifying the types of energy involved in the problem.
  • Others explore the relationship between kinetic and potential energy and how to properly set the reference point for potential energy calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the energy relationships. There is a mix of correct calculations and points of confusion, particularly regarding the setup of energy equations and the reference level for potential energy.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's inexperience with energy concepts, which may affect their understanding of the problem. The discussion also highlights the importance of clearly stating energy types and their interconnections.

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Homework Statement



A 1.50 m high trampoline stores 50.0J or elastic potential energy as a 39.2Kg child lands on it. What is the maximum speed the child will reach as he is propelled vertically into the air and how high above the ground will he reach before he lands again?

Homework Equations



Not sure what it means :/

Ek = Ep
Ek=1/2*m*v^2
Ep=m*g*h

Ek= kinetic energy
Ep= potential energy
m=mass
v=speed
h=height
g=gravitational force (9.81m/s^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



v= [Square Root]((Ek)/(1/2)(m))
v= [Square Root]((50.0J)/(0.5)(39.2Kg))
v= 1.5971 m/s
v= 1.60 m/s <---- Maximum speed i thinkh= (Ep)/(m*g)
h= (50.0J)/(39.2Kg)(9.81m/s^2)
h= 0.13002 m
h= 0.130 m <---- Maximum height i think
 
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That's almost correct. Be careful on your height. Is 0.130m the maximum height reached by the child?

Another thing: the solution is numerically correct, but I think that you should state clearly which are the types of energy (kinetic, potential gravitational, potential elastic...) in this problem, and how they are linked, e.g. why the kinetic energy Ek is 50.0J?
I know this may seem quite boring because it is obvious, but this way of thinking will help you in more difficult exercises.
 
I found something wrong but I'm still not sure if the answer is correct.

Edit:
h= (Ep)/(m*g)
h= (50.0J)/(39.2Kg)(9.81m/s^2)
h= 0.13002 m
h= 0.130 m + 1.50m (because above ground)
h= 1.63m <----Possible answer
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I tried stating why Kinetic=Potential but I still couldn't figure out the answer. :(

Mechanical Energy= Kinetic Energy+Potential Gravitational Energy
so
[Change in]Kinetic Energy = [Change in]Potential Gravitational Energy

Please help, I just learned about energy so I'm not really good at it
 
You got it.
The best way is:
Choose the reference to measure the potential gravitational energy; I will choose the level of the trampoline (with this convention, h=0 means on the trampoline) , but you can choose ground level as well.

At the beginning: Only Potential elastic energy E_{elastic}=50.0J (because I choose to put Egravitational=0 on the trampoline
While flying: Potential gravitational energy +Kinetic energy: E_{gravit}+K

Since you must have
E_{elastic}=E_{gravit}+K=mgh+\frac{1}{2}mv^2
to get the highest speed you have to solve in v, to get the highest height you solve on h.
v_{max}=\sqrt{\frac{2[E_{elastic}-mgh]}{m}} the maximum speed is when h=0, and you get v_{max}=\sqrt{\frac{2E_{elastic}}{m}}.
h_{max}=\frac{E_{elastic}-\frac{1}{2}mv^2}{mg} which has its maximum when v=0, so that
h_{max}=\frac{E_{elastic}}{mg}

Got it?
 
thanks i get it now :)
 

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