Calculating Mean Daily Precipitation: Home-made Rain Gauge Results

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean daily precipitation based on measurements taken from a home-made rain gauge over a week. Participants are analyzing the method of calculating the mean and the associated uncertainty of the measurements, which were recorded to the nearest 0.5 mm.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the mean by summing the daily precipitation values and dividing by the number of days. There is uncertainty regarding the choice of uncertainty value and how it relates to the precision of the measurements. Questions arise about the correct method for determining uncertainty and whether the initial mean calculation is accurate.

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Some participants are revisiting their calculations and expressing confusion about the concept of uncertainty. Guidance has been offered regarding how to calculate uncertainty based on the individual measurements, and there is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the results.

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Participants are working with measurements that have a defined precision of ±0.5 mm, and there is a need to clarify how this affects the calculation of both the mean and its uncertainty. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach to determining uncertainty.

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The table shows results for precipitation (rainfall) obtained with a home-made rain gauge over 7 consecutive days. The measurements were made at 7.30 am on each day, and the values given indicate the depth of water collected in the previous 24 hours. The original measurements were made to the nearest 0.5 mm (i.e. half a division on a ruler), and thus you may assume that the precision of each value presented here is also ±0.5 mm.

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Precipitation in previous 24 hours/mm 2.0 0.0 3.5 2.5 4.5 3.0 4.5
Calculate the mean daily precipitation for this week. Write this mean value and its uncertainty to an appropriate number of decimal places, and with appropriate units.
The mean daily precipitation = 2.6 ± 0.5
is this correct please
 
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No, it is not correct. Since you don't say how you got it, I can't say more.
 
This is how i got my answer. In order to get my mean, i added all those figures together and divided it by 7 and got the answer of 2.6. Then i chose 0.5 for my uncertainty value. Whilst i honestly thought my mean figure was correct, I am very unsure of what this uncertainty value means. Hope that makes sense
 
carl said:
This is how i got my answer. In order to get my mean, i added all those figures together and divided it by 7 and got the answer of 2.6. Then i chose 0.5 for my uncertainty value. Whilst i honestly thought my mean figure was correct, I am very unsure of what this uncertainty value means. Hope that makes sense

(2.0+0.0+3.5+2.5+4.5+3.0+4.5)/7 is more than 2.6.

Why did you choose 0.5 for your uncertainty? I'm not sure how your class is doing it, but I would expect more like 1.3 (or the 'conservative' 3.5).
 
Hi CRGreathouse
Please give me 5 mins and I am going to start working it all out again and get back with what i think is correct.
 
Ok
I get 2.85714 and another load of figures afterwards. Now I am more confused than ever. Surely i now need to round off to nearest decimal figure.
Can you also please explain uncertainty to me as i have absolutely no idea whatsoever.
 
The numbers add to 20. The mean is 20/7. That looks like what you now have.

CRGreathouse, I believe that the uncertainty is 0.5. To find the uncertainty of a sum, you add the uncertainties of each. To find the uncertainty of an average you average the uncertainties- since the uncertainty of each measurement is the same, that is the same as that common uncertainty.

Another way you could do this is to find the largest possible value for each measurement: that measurement + 0.5 here, and find that average, find the smallest possible value for each measurement, -0.5, and find that average. The error is the larger of "largest average minus the average you have" and "average you have minus smallest average". Since all 7 measurements have an error of 0.5, using the highest value gives you 20+ 7(0.5) which averages to 20/7+ 0.5. Using the least value gives you 20- 7(0.5) which averages to 20/7- 0.5. The error is plus or minus 0.5.
 

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