Calculating Min. Beam Diameter to Avoid Breakdown

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The problem involves calculating the minimum diameter of a cylindrical laser beam to avoid breakdown in air, given specific parameters such as wavelength, pulse duration, energy, and the maximum electric field before ionization occurs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between energy, flux density, and beam area, questioning how to link the provided data and which formulas are applicable.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the relevance of the wavelength in the calculations.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of the beam area and its dependence on the geometry of the beam.
  • Questions arise regarding the calculation of the beam's length based on the pulse duration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches to calculate the beam diameter. Some have suggested formulas and calculations, while others seek clarification on the relevance of certain parameters. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is constrained by the parameters given, including the maximum electric field and the energy of the laser pulse. The lack of explicit information about the height of the cylinder is also mentioned as a point of confusion.

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Hello,

Homework Statement


The laser Nd:YAG can product a light impulse of λ=1064nm that lasts for 10ns and encloses an energy of 0.1 J and propagates as a cylindrical beam of uniform section in air (n=1)
The maximum electric field that can support air before atoms' ionization is ≈30 MV/m otherwise there's breakdown
What is the minimum diameter of the beam to avoid breakdown

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know how I can link all these datas and which formulas will help me to

Thanks
 
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An average flux density of EM wave can be calculated with
$$
I = \frac{1}{2} \sqrt{\frac{ε_0} {μ_0}} E^2,
$$
where ##E = 30 MV/m.##

On the other side an energy (##W = 0.1 J##) is
$$
W = I S τ
$$
where S is a beam area and ##τ = 10^{-8} s##.

So you can calculate a beam area S and then find a diameter of the beam.

I don't know why data include a wave lenght.
 
S is the area of the beam or of a section because if it is the total area it will depend on h as it is a cylinder and we don't have it. Thanks
 
GregoryS said:
An average flux density of EM wave can be calculated with
$$
I = \frac{1}{2} \sqrt{\frac{ε_0} {μ_0}} E^2,
$$
where ##E = 30 MV/m.##

On the other side an energy (##W = 0.1 J##) is
$$
W = I S τ
$$
where S is a beam area and ##τ = 10^{-8} s##.

So you can calculate a beam area S and then find a diameter of the beam.

I don't know why data include a wave lenght.

Gregory -- please be sure to check your PMs. You received a message about how we handle Homework Help here on the PF. Thank you.
 
Dassinia said:
S is the area of the beam or of a section because if it is the total area it will depend on h as it is a cylinder and we don't have it. Thanks

You *do* have the height of the cylinder. You are given the duration of the pulse...
 
Is it just L=c*t ?
 
Dassinia said:
Is it just L=c*t ?

Yep! :smile:

So can you show us the complete solution now?
 
With
μ0 = 4 π 10-7 Hm-1
ε0= 8,85* 10-12 Fm−1
ε=(ε0/μO)1/2

W=0.5*ε*E²*t*2π*r*c*t
r=W/(ε*E²*t²*2π*c)

t=10^-8 s
E=30*10^6 V/m
W=0.1 J
 

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