Calculating Minimum Power for Air Conditioner

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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum power required for an air conditioner based on given temperatures and heat removal rates. The problem involves thermodynamic principles, specifically the coefficient of performance (COP) for cooling systems.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the minimum power using the COP formula but questions their result when it is marked incorrect. Some participants suggest that the approach may involve a misunderstanding of the relationship between heat removal and power input. Others explore alternative methods to isolate variables and derive the correct work done by the air conditioner.

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Participants are actively discussing the calculations and assumptions involved in determining the minimum power for the air conditioner. Some have provided alternative methods and reasoning, while others have pointed out potential errors in the original approach. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and methods are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying the COP for cooling versus heating and question the implications of temperature differences on power requirements. The original poster's calculations are based on specific values provided in the problem, but there is some confusion regarding the correct application of these values.

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A home is kept cool by an air conditioner. The outside temperature is 311.75K and the interior of the home is 288.55K. If 127kJ/h of heat is removed from the house, what is the minimum power that must be provided to the air-conditioner? answer in kJ/h
my work

COP = Th / (Th - Tc)
= 311.75 / (311.75 - 288.55)
= 13.44

W = 127kJ/h / 13.44
= 9.45 kJ/h this is incorrect according to the homework server

Anybody know where i went wrong on this one?
any help is appreciated!:smile:

Sergio
 
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There's no way the electrical input can be less than the power removed! You need to multiply, not divide.
 
Ok we went about this a different way and got the right answer...for those of you who may have the same problem...

Th, Tc and Qc are given in the problem...isolate Qh using Qh/Th = Qc/Tc
to find work
W = Qh-Qc

thank you for your help marcusl i realized i was going about it the wrong way :)
 
marcusl said:
There's no way the electrical input can be less than the power removed! You need to multiply, not divide.

I think that is not true. If the temperature difference goes to zero, it should ideally take no work to move the heat from one resevoir to another. I think the only problem with the original calculation is that the OP was using the COP for heating instead of the COP for cooling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance

S_fabris said:
Ok we went about this a different way and got the right answer...for those of you who may have the same problem...

Th, Tc and Qc are given in the problem...isolate Qh using Qh/Th = Qc/Tc
to find work
W = Qh-Qc

thank you for your help marcusl i realized i was going about it the wrong way :)

Qh/Th = Qc/Tc
Qh = Qc(Th/Tc)
W = Qh - Qc = Qc(Th/Tc) - Qc = Qc[(Th/Tc) - 1] = Qc(Th- Tc)/Tc = Qc/COP_cooling

COP_cooling = Tc/(Th- Tc) = 288.55/(311.75 - 288.55) = 12.44

W = 127kJ/h/12.44 = 10.21kJ/h
 
ahhh ok i see what i did wrong!

Perfect thank you very much for your time!

Sergio :D
 

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