Calculating Momentum and Mass after a Collision

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the mass of two objects after a collision, given their initial momentum and velocities. The context includes momentum conservation principles and the interaction of multiple objects moving in opposite directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the momentum formula to find the mass of the second object, questioning if their calculations are correct. Some participants question the clarity of the momentum units and the assumptions made about the total momentum during the collisions.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the momentum conservation principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's approach or the implications for the third object's mass.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing information regarding units and the clarity of the problem statement. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the application of momentum conservation in the context of multiple collisions.

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Homework Statement


The problem states that an object moving at a momentum of 800 m/s( calculated by mass of 80kg x 10 m/s) collides with another object. Both objects are moving forward at 5 m/s. What is the mass of the second object? While moving the objects hit another object moving at 5 m/s in the opposite direction. After the collision they all stop. What is the mass of the 3rd object

Homework Equations


p=m*v

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part I did Momentum=Mass X Velocity. Since the mass of the first object is known and momentum is conserved I got:
p=m*v
p=m*5
800=m*5
m= 800/5
m=160kg
The mass of the second object is 160kg

Now for the 3rd part where they hit an object and stop. The mass of the 3rd object would need to be the same as the combined mass of object 1 and 2. I cannot figure out the equation for this nor do I know if I am on the right track with the solution from part 2. Of course if that is wrong then the entire solution would be wrong.
Thank you in advance for any guidance.
 
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There are units missing.
hatekhaos said:
The mass of the second object is 160kg
Is that really the mass of the second object? After the first collision, both the first and the second object are moving at 5 m/s.
hatekhaos said:
Now for the 3rd part where they hit an object and stop. The mass of the 3rd object would need to be the same as the combined mass of object 1 and 2.
Correct.
hatekhaos said:
I cannot figure out the equation for this
You can solve it similarly to the first collision, but I guess just arguing with symmetry should be fine.
 
hatekhaos said:

Homework Statement


The problem states that an object moving at a momentum of 800 m/s( calculated by mass of 80kg x 10 m/s)
You mean that the momentum is 800 kg m/s
collides with another object. Both objects are moving forward at 5 m/s. What is the mass of the second object?

While moving the objects hit another object moving at 5 m/s in the opposite direction. After the collision they all stop. What is the mass of the 3rd object

Homework Equations


p=m*v

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part I did Momentum=Mass X Velocity. Since the mass of the first object is known and momentum is conserved I got:
p=m*v
p=m*5
m*5 is the momentum of the second object only, not the total momentum of both objects. The total momentum of both objects is 80*5+ m*5= 800. Solve for m.

800=m*5
m= 800/5
m=160kg
The mass of the second object is 160kg

Now for the 3rd part where they hit an object and stop. The mass of the 3rd object would need to be the same as the combined mass of object 1 and 2. I cannot figure out the equation for this nor do I know if I am on the right track with the solution from part 2. Of course if that is wrong then the entire solution would be wrong.
Thank you in advance for any guidance.
The total momentum of the first two masses is, from above 800 kg m/s. Taking the mass of the third object to be M, its momentum is -5M kg m/s so the total momentum, before the collision is 800- 5M kg m/s. After the collision they are stopped so the total momentum is 0.
800- 5M= 0. Solve for M.
 
Thank you for the help!
 

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