Calculating Orbital Speed on Mars: A Beginner's Guide to Circular Motion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital speed of a golf ball on Mars, focusing on concepts of circular motion and gravitational forces. Participants explore the implications of Mars' gravitational acceleration and its surface curvature in relation to orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various equations relevant to gravitational and circular motion, including Newton's law of universal gravitation and the formula for centripetal acceleration. There is uncertainty about which equations to prioritize and how to initiate the problem-solving process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the relationship between gravitational acceleration and circular motion. There is a recognition of the need to equate gravitational acceleration with centripetal acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that Mars' gravitational acceleration is 0.4 times that of Earth's, and there is a specific curvature detail provided about Mars' surface drop, which may influence the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of different physics concepts.

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The curvature in Mars is such that its surface drops a vertical distance of 2.0 meters for every 3600 meters tangent to the surface. In addition, the gravitational acceleration near the surface is 0.4 times near the surface of Earth. What is the speed a golf ball would need to orbit Mars near the surface, ignoring the effects of air resistance?


First let me tell you that I am teaching myself physics, forgive me if I sound completely clueless. I am not quite sure how I should start. Should I use Newtons law of Universal gravitation F=Gm1m2/r^2. Circular motion equations or Hooke's law? Any other clues to get me started would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Yes, F=Gm1m2/r^2, and also the formula for the acceleration of an object in circular motion, a = v^2/r, and of course F = ma. :smile:

[size=-2](Hooke's law is about the force in springs, and has nothing to do with hooking golf balls!)[/size]​
 
if the distance is too small

you can use mv^2/r = mg
then u find v= sqrt gr for circular around the planet you want...
Suppose at this speed, the golf ball will move aroung the planet with a circular, low-attitude(the ground) orbit.
 
Ok, sorry guys I know which equations I should use now, but please give me a small hint as to the first step to this problem.
 
No need for all those formulas.
kirste said:
The curvature in Mars is such that its surface drops a vertical distance of 2.0 meters for every 3600 meters tangent to the surface.
Hint: How long does it take for the golf ball to fall 2.0 meters on Mars?

(You could do this problem using force laws and centripetal acceleration. But that's the hard way and I don't think that's what they want you to do.)
 
Ahhh, thank you DocAl :)
 
Hint: the acceleration from gravity must exactly equal the acceleration for circular motion.

oops! … :redface: I hadn't noticed :redface: … they've told you that mars-gravity = .4 x earth-gravity, so you don't need F=Gm1m2/r^2 at all. Just use .4 x g (look the value of g up in a book if you don't know it).

So work out what r is, and then put .4g on the left, and v^2/r on the right … :smile:
 

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