Calculating Oscillation Period and Spring Energy in a Three-Mass System

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The discussion revolves around a three-mass system involving two masses connected by a string over a fixed mass, with a spring attached to one of the masses. The original poster is uncertain about how to approach the problem of determining the oscillation period and energy in this setup after displacing one mass from its equilibrium position.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion about where to begin and describes the system's configuration. Some participants suggest starting with a simpler problem involving a single mass and spring to build understanding. Others inquire about the net restoring force and acceleration when one mass is displaced.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding simpler scenarios to facilitate understanding, but no consensus has been reached on the original problem.

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The original poster mentions language barriers and difficulties in sharing visual aids, which may affect the clarity of the problem description. There is also an indication that the problem may involve complexities related to the interaction of multiple masses and the spring system.

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Homework Statement
In the equilibrium of the system shown in the diagram, the spring is stretched by 7cm compared to its undeformed state. The masses are:
M1=300g
M2=100g
M3=100g

Calculate the period of oscillation of this system if the weight is pulled downward and released, as well as the energy of the spring.
Relevant Equations
It's a junior year AP problem about oscilations and harmonic oscilators. So T=2pi/w formula and everything in the same bracket
To be frank im not exactly sure where to even start. We were given a diagram in which two masses (m1 and m2) are connected by string which is draped over a circle (m3) that is fixed on the ceiling. From m2 is hanging a spring which is, i guess, attached to the floor. The question asks what would happen if we pulled m1 from the equilibrium it is in and let it fall.

If anyone has any idea on how to solve this i would really appreciate it. Also, if there are any follow up questions id be happy to elaborate. My description might not be the best since english is my second language and I haven't yet found out the way to attach pictures on the forum.

All the best
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Welcome to PF.

lenna_kay said:
I haven't yet found out the way to attach pictures on the forum.
Use the "Attach files" link below the Edit window to upload your file. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to PF.


Use the "Attach files" link below the Edit window to upload your file. :smile:
Thank you for the instruction! Ive added the image 😁
 
lenna_kay said:
To be frank im not exactly sure where to even start.

Are you able to solve a simpler problem first? Say, a single mass hanging by a spring from the ceiling, and you release it from a position where the spring is relaxed (so not exerting any force on the mass)... How would you calculate the motion of the mass versus time in that simplified situation, and what would the frequency of oscillation of that system be?
 
It is often possible to "straighten out" pulley systems where masses move in synchrony. In regard to inertia the masses add, while in regard to gravitation they oppose.
Also, in equilibrium, the spring force exactly cancels the net gravitational force.

If ##m-1## is pulled down a distance x, what is the net restoring force?
What acceleration will that result in?
 

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