Calculating Photon Energy given Luminosity

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy associated with photons entering the eye from a 100 W lightbulb located 1 meter away. The original poster attempts to relate the power emitted by the lightbulb to the energy perceived through the pupil, while grappling with the lack of a time component to convert power into energy.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the geometry of light entering the eye and consider the volume of light as a cylinder extending from the pupil to the retina. There are questions regarding the effective wavelengths of light that penetrate the lens and the implications of lens replacements on visibility.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights on estimating the volume of light and the effects of lens replacement on light perception. The original poster has made progress by incorporating the radius of the eye into their calculations, but there remains uncertainty regarding the conversion of power to energy without a time factor.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific constraints, such as the area of the pupil and the power of the lightbulb, as well as assumptions about the wavelengths of light that can effectively reach the retina.

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Homework Statement


NOTE: This is part two of a problem. The first part used the equation for the energy density of photons in a blackbody to find the photon energy, but that doesn't seem to apply here.

Imagine that you are looking at a 100 W lightbulb from 1 meter away. At any instant in
time there will be some number of photons which came from the lightbulb inside your eye. If the
area of your pupil is taken to be A = 0.5 [itex]cm^{2}[/itex] what is the energy associated with these photons?


Homework Equations


Area of a Sphere = 4[itex]\pi[/itex][itex]r^{2}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


So far I have found:

First converting A to units of [itex]m^{2}[/itex]:
A = [itex]0.5 cm^{2} * \frac{1 m^{2}}{10000 cm^{2}} = 5 x 10^{-5} m^{2}[/itex]

Power/Area @ 1 meter = [itex]\frac{100W}{4\pi r^{2}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{100W}{4\pi (1)^{2}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{25}{\pi} \frac{W}{m^{2}}[/itex]

Then the power through the pupil:

P = [itex]A * \frac{25}{\pi} \frac{W}{m^{2}} = \frac{1.25}{\pi} mW[/itex]

And here's where I am stuck. I know that a Watt is Joules/Sec and I am looking for units of Joules, but it says at any instant, so I do not have a time to multiply this answer by. I'm guessing I either need another equation to get to Joules, or I need to somehow take the limit of an integration as Δt → 0, however that route doesn't seem to be the intent of the question. Just need some direction at this point. Thanks.
 
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The first thing that comes to my mind is a cylinder of light extending from the pupil to the retina at the back of the eye. You could estimate that distance and get your volume.
The lens at the front of the eye will focus the light - not to a point on the retina, but to a reduced image of the bulb. This makes the cylinder volume estimate a little too large. But it is a minor consideration compared to the estimating you will have to do in regard to what range of wavelengths will effectively penetrate the lens into the eye and what portion of the bulb's energy is emitted in that range.

Incidentally, I read somewhere in the news this week that people who get lens replacements (cataract surgery) can see near ultraviolet that is invisible to people with their natural lenses.
 
Thank You! That's exactly what I needed. I was also given the radius of the eye, so by using the diameter as the length of the cylinder and dividing by the speed of light I arrive at Joules. I believe that's the correct result. Much appreciated.

Also, that is quite interesting. Not sure why that is, as the retina is what is sensitive to certain wavelengths. Perhaps the lens replacements slow the ultraviolet light, increasing its wavelength to within the threshold of visibility?
 
The natural lens only let's "visible" light through. Not UV. But new plastic ones let UV down to 350 nm through. Yes, the retina must also be sensitive in the UV.

Use the radius of the pupil for the cylinder of light.
 
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