Calculating Pressure Change Due to Immersion in Water

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in pressure experienced by a pressure gauge as it is immersed in water. The gauge's spring constant and piston dimensions are provided, and participants explore the relationship between force, area, and pressure in the context of fluid mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between force exerted by the spring and the pressure exerted on the piston. There are attempts to calculate the force required to compress the spring and the resulting pressure on the piston. Questions arise regarding the use of standard density for water and the relevance of atmospheric pressure in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the force and pressure, leading to a proposed depth of immersion. There is a recognition of the need to equate the calculated pressure to the static pressure of the liquid, and some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions made about atmospheric pressure.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, focusing on the relationships between pressure, force, and depth in a fluid. There is an acknowledgment of the initial conditions of the spring and the effects of immersion in water.

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Homework Statement


The spring of a pressure gauge has a force constant of 1250 N/m, and the piston has a radius of 1.20 cm. As the gauge is lowered into water, what change in depth causes the piston to move in by 0.750 cm?


Homework Equations


F = -k\Deltax

\frac{F}{A} = Y\frac{\Delta L}{L <sub>0</sub>}

\DeltaP = -B\frac{\Delta V}{V}

\rho = \frac{M}{V}

P = \frac{F}{A}

P2 = P1 + \rhogh


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure exactly how to begin.
I know that P = F/A, so would the pressure of the water on the gauge be:

P = F/A
P = F/(\pir2)
P = F/(1.44\pi)

But wouldn't another equation involve the force constant, because that would be a force acting against the water pressure?

Any guidance would be appreciated.
 
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To compress that spring a distance of one metre you'd need to exert a force of 1250 Newtons. But we are only going to compress it by 0.75 centimetres. So how much force is required?

Now you've found the force, and we know its acting on a circular area of radius 1.2 cm, what pressure (force per unit area) is exerted on the piston?

Now in a liquid the static pressure is always equal to depth * density.

So equate the required pressure to the static liquid pressure and discover the depth.
 
Carid said:
To compress that spring a distance of one metre you'd need to exert a force of 1250 Newtons. But we are only going to compress it by 0.75 centimetres. So how much force is required?

F = -k\Deltax
F = (-1250 N/m)(-0.0075 m)
F = 9.375 N

Carid said:
Now you've found the force, and we know its acting on a circular area of radius 1.2 cm, what pressure (force per unit area) is exerted on the piston?

P = \frac{F}{A}

P = \frac{9.375 N}{\pi(1.20 cm) <sup>2</sup>}

P = 2.07 N/cm2

Carid said:
Now in a liquid the static pressure is always equal to depth * density.

So equate the required pressure to the static liquid pressure and discover the depth.

So, is this equivalent to the equation: P = P_{0} + \rhogh?

And would the density be the density of the fluid? (In which case calculation would be unnecessary, and I would just use the standard density of water?)

By the way, thank you for your help thus far.
 
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I think I have it:

P = F/A = (9.375 N)/(pi * 0.012^2) = 20723.3 Pa

P = \rhogh
20723.3 Pa = (1000 kg/m^3)(9.8)(h)
h = 2.11 m

So... h = 2.11 m

Is this correct?
 
Yes that looks right to me. I haven't checked all the units though.

We ignore the atmospheric pressure because the spring was already subjected to that at the beginning of the experiment and the movement of the spring is entirely due to immersion in the liquid.
 
Carid said:
Yes that looks right to me. I haven't checked all the units though.

We ignore the atmospheric pressure because the spring was already subjected to that at the beginning of the experiment and the movement of the spring is entirely due to immersion in the liquid.

Oh, now I understand. Thank you for mentioning that last tidbit. I appreciate your help, Carid! :smile:
 

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