Calculating Projectile Angle and Velocity with Vertical Launch: Explained

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The discussion revolves around calculating projectile motion, specifically focusing on a scenario where a projectile explodes at a height and the resulting fragments fall in various directions. The original poster seeks to determine the angle that the final velocity of the fragments makes with the ground, as well as the time and velocity of a particle launched vertically from a height.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations of motion for a vertically launched particle and questions how to approach the calculation of angles formed by the velocity of fragments after an explosion. Some participants suggest using kinematic equations to find time and velocity, while others question the completeness of the information provided in the problems.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the angles formed by different initial velocities of the fragments. Some guidance has been offered on using specific equations to find time and velocity, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to calculate the angles.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings in the translation of the problem, and some participants note that additional information may be necessary to fully address the questions posed.

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Ok, after some work, it seem that I am not able to do this exercises, over even get something that describe them...

If a projectile explode at and height of h the movement was vertical (the highest point in the vertical direction is h). The pieces fall in all directions, but all of them have the same speed v. The resistance of the iar is despreciable. Calculate the most short angle (¿acute?) that the velocity will form with the ground.

I don't know even how to handle it... I can see what is asked in some way, but don't know what to plug.The next one, I'm more near, but unable to continue.

From a height y=h a particle is launched vertically, what is the time and velocity for the particle to do contact with y = 0.

here is what I have so far:
Deducing...
a_y = -g
v_y = -gt+V_0
y = -\frac{1}{2}gt^2+v_0t

If V_y eq 0 then the particle is at y_{max} and t_{max} is the time for get there...

0 = -gt_{max} + v_0
t = \frac{v_0}{g}

then
y_{max} = -\frac{1}{2}g\left(\frac{v_0}{g}\right)^2+\frac{v_0v_0}{g}
= \frac{v_0^2}{2g}

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Now follow a new problem, where d = h + y_{max}
With start conditions...

<br /> a = g
v_0=0
t_0=0
p_0 = 0

And in the other end of the line:
a=g
v_f = ?
t_f = ?
p_f = d = h + y_{max}I know that this is easy, but now what?
 
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Yeah. Just set y=0 and solve from there. Use y=y0 + V0T + (1/2)aT^2. Solve for T.

I think you're forgetting some information in the other problem.
 
I only don't put the answer that need be proved (I write it in short).

Perhaps my translatio to english in the question is wrong...

Calculate the most short angle (¿acute?) that the velocity will form with the ground.

Here is again:

calculate the shortes (the littlest) angle that the final velocity of a fragment will do with the horizontal. Solution tan^{-1}\left[\left(2gh\right)^{\frac{1}{2}} / v \right].

Perhaps that.
 
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If a piece leaves the explosion traveling with its velocity straight DOWN,
what is the angle that its final velocity makes with the ground?

If a different piece leaves the explosion with initial velocity straight UP,
what is the angle that its final velocity makes with the ground?

If some piece leaves the explosion with its initial velocity HORIZONTAL,
what is the angle that its final velocity makes with the ground?

Which final velocity angle is smallest?
Can you find the final velocity angle as a function of initial velocity angle?
If so, you can show that horizontal initial velocity should give the smallest final angle, if it is not obvious already (you do want the largest horizontal component, right? and the smallest vertical component...) set \frac{d\theta_{final}}{d\theta_{init}} = 0
 
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