Calculating Rate Of Separation Between Two Arcs

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The discussion focuses on calculating the rate of separation between two aircraft traveling at the same speed but with different turn radii. Specifically, the turn radii are 54,795 feet and 34,546 feet at a speed of 545 mph. The difference in radii is 17,410 feet, leading to an exponential increase in separation as the aircraft complete their turns. The discussion emphasizes deriving a formula using geometric principles and suggests visualizing the problem with diagrams and triangles to facilitate understanding.

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Homework Statement



Is there a formula for calculating the rate of separation (per degree) for two planes beginning at a common point, traveling at the same speed, performing turns with two different turn radiuses?


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See linked image for better understanding (separation values for image were measured):

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The formula can easily be derived with some geometry. I don't know what the formula is or where on the Internet you can find it, but if you want to try deriving it, I'll be glad to help.
 
Thanks. Not sure where to begin.

The turn radiuses in question:

a) 54,795 feet at 545mph

b) 34,546 feet at 545mph

The difference between the two radiuses:

54,795 - 34,546 = 17,410.

The separation seems to become exponentially larger. Also, the difference in distance traveled means the plane traveling the smaller circumference completes its 360 turn before the other.
 
To start, try assuming that at the time the first vehicle has turned by "a" degrees, the second vehicle has turned by "b" degrees. You can easily find "a" and "b" given the time it took the vehicles to reach those angles.

Now, draw a few triangles on your diagram and proceed from there.
 

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