Calculating Reaction Forces on Symmetrical Beam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating reaction forces on a symmetrical beam using different methods: Macaulay's Bending Moment method, Displacement Finite Element analysis, and ANSYS software. Participants explore the contexts in which each method might be preferred and the implications of using multiple approaches for verification.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the use of multiple methods for calculating reaction forces and questions when each method would be most useful.
  • Another participant emphasizes the value of having multiple methods to independently verify results, suggesting that different methods can yield the same answer as a form of validation.
  • There is a discussion about the ease of developing formulas for beams of variable sections compared to making minor adjustments in finite element models.
  • A participant highlights the importance of calibrating finite element methods against known cases to ensure accuracy.
  • One participant expresses a common concern about relying too heavily on computer-generated results without proper verification.
  • A new participant asks about applying an inclined force in ANSYS, indicating a practical application question related to the software.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the usefulness of multiple methods for verification, but there is no consensus on specific situations where one method is definitively better than another. The discussion remains open regarding the best practices for using these methods.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific examples where one method might be preferred over another, as well as the dependence on user input quality in software like ANSYS, which remains unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Mechanical engineering students, practitioners using finite element analysis, and individuals interested in structural analysis methods may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi, first post here, currently a Mech Eng student, learning about Mechanics of Solids. In calculating reaction forces on a symmetrical beam that's simply supported, we've done it in three ways - Macaulay's Bending Moment method, Displacement Finite Element analysis and in ANSYS (computer program based on FEA). Was just wondering when each of these method would be used? Is there a specific situation where one would be more useful than the other or it is more about learning every situation in order to double check answers?

Many thanks for any thoughts on the situation
 
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Hello, lottedx and welcome to Physics Forums.

Well isn't it nice to have more than one method available to calculate something?

When you have more than one method and the different methods yield the same answer, you have a truly independent check.

Obviously you have analysed the same beam each time to compare the methods and found that for a simple situation straightforward substitution into a formula is easiest.

However consider how easy it would be to develop a formula for a beam of variable section (eg tapering), compared to the small change needed to an FE model.

Now consider a complicated structure that will be analysed by FE methods.
How will you know that the FE method is telling the truth?
Answer - by 'calibration' against known cases determined by other methods and/or by obtaining rough results by simpler methods.

Does this help ?

go well
 
That makes perfect sense, thank you.

Especially as we all have a tendency to take computer answer as gospel, we all know that the answers are only as good as the human input that created them!

That's helpful to know that it is purely different ways to calulate the same things.

Thanks!
 
Yes! as my Stress analysis lecturer would say when it comes to FEM- "Junk in Junk out"
 
hello sir am a mechanical design engineering student who is trying to use ansys workbench for an simple analysis. i am new to this software.
how can i apply a force in a beam with specific angle. is it possible to apply a inclined force on a component?
 

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